Just found on FB ........... New details of the 2025 Rollercoaster and its theming buildings and 2-dimensional structures. Lots of landscaping is being added as well.
Project 2025/Holzfäller: Big Bad Wolf 2 (B&M Family Invert)
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Looking between the projected layout and these latest theming plans, are we going to be crashing through Building 75? A near-miss element like that would almost be worth the lack of swinging.
I think it's more like through building 80 and over building 75
Oh now THAT'S cool! Definitely looks like you'll go through 80, right past 60, and over 75.
Building 80 is only 12 tall
Building 75 is 30 feet tall
Gives us bbw vibes for sure
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With what they're supposedly doing with the Loch Ness Monster, there's a good chance this one will be a solid coaster despite doubts about its theming. I don't know, we'll see!
Based on those numbers, i'd say over 80 and through 75.
I really hope this ride turns into BGWs “Big Bear Mountain” personally. If they have the music synchronized up and there’s cool near misses it should be a major hit with families if they find the entrance.
I think a lot of this ride’s success will hinge on how well the area is landscaped. A huge part of BBW’s appeal, at least to me, was the feeling of traveling deep within the dense woods, far removed from the rest of the park.
The fact that this coaster is being built not into existing forests and ravines, but into essentially a flat empty field, gives me some reservations. Hopefully they prove me wrong.
The fact that this coaster is being built not into existing forests and ravines, but into essentially a flat empty field, gives me some reservations. Hopefully they prove me wrong.
I'm increasingly convinced that the park is actually going to make this into something pretty nice. There's a confluence right now between an increased focus on aesthetics within the chain, an increasing amount of investment into theming by BGW, and what is likely to be a significant influx of discretionary budget provided to BGW to capitalize on their 50th anniversary.
I just sincerely worry that no matter how much money and effort they put in, it's bound to be wasted. No matter how nice they make the attraction, the scale of the attraction and its placement are just so incredibly, fundamentally, and in my opinion, nearly irreconcilably, mismatched. Without neighboring, imminent, enormous, and, in my assessment, somewhat unlikely, expansion plans to quickly follow Holzfäller, I believe this coaster is doomed to miniscule ridership within 12 months of its debut. I just don't see how a small family invert in the middle of nowhere isn't doomed to inevitable obscurity.
And then, of course, the investment will be seen as a failure—and who knows what lessons the chain will take from that...
I just sincerely worry that no matter how much money and effort they put in, it's bound to be wasted. No matter how nice they make the attraction, the scale of the attraction and its placement are just so incredibly, fundamentally, and in my opinion, nearly irreconcilably, mismatched. Without neighboring, imminent, enormous, and, in my assessment, somewhat unlikely, expansion plans to quickly follow Holzfäller, I believe this coaster is doomed to miniscule ridership within 12 months of its debut. I just don't see how a small family invert in the middle of nowhere isn't doomed to inevitable obscurity.
And then, of course, the investment will be seen as a failure—and who knows what lessons the chain will take from that...
I have to agree, we are still missing a top tier. Ride this here, nothing else like it ride. IMO this plot is deserving of a RMC Drachen Fire. Be it, Hyper Hybrid, or “Trex”
Well said. I, too, severely hope they have something HUGE to immediately follow it, but I'm not hopeful. Then, on top of that, directly competing with Kings Dominion who will be installing a much more prominent ride, and also possibly debuting TWO full rethemes of existing coasters... I would not want to be the person that canned the 220ft RMC in favor of this.
Could easily end up like I305, where it's perceived as a great ride and ridership/lines don't match at all because of location.
At least people can see I305 from afar. This ride will be buried behind trees. People won’t see it and won’t be inclined to gravitate towards it at all.
I can't believe that this ride went from something thrilling to the ride SpongeBob and Patrick rode in the one episode with the tiny ass hill in the middle.
I'm actually not that surprised. Sure, SeaWorld is spending money chainwide on new attractions, but it is becoming increasing evident that SWO and BGT are going to see the biggest lift from this spending, and rightfully so with Epic Universe opening up in 2025.
I think if they do indeed go with a nice Big Bad Wolf homage, the nostalgia appeal will be more than enough to draw crowds back to that "obscure" area of the park. People affectionately talk about BBW all the time. If Busch does this right, it will be a smash hit among the general public. It still hurts that we almost had a Gwazi 2.0 lurking back there... but let's trust the process and hope that the park has another area in mind for something of that caliber.
The Iron Drachen can still come, they just want another family friendly ride first.
I think you may overestimate how much the GP cares about BBW
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