Project 2025/Holzfäller: Big Bad Wolf 2 (B&M Family Invert)

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cb0355 said:
Changing the topography like that.. is it something to do with actual infrastructure for the plot or is it something aesthetic for the ride? A “mountain” perhaps or a more rugged terrain?
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The hill already exists and they're cutting away and leveling about half of it to fit the ride track in. The other half is the triangular shape you're seeing in the site plan. Reading it also. It doesn't seem like a steep hill either.

Festhaus Park used to be nearly dead level when Drachen Fire was there. When Verbolten was built, a lot of the dirt filled that area and across the service road.
 
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AIR said:
The hill already exists and they're cutting away and leveling about half of it to fit the ride track in. The other half is the triangular shape you're seeing in the site plan. Reading it also. It doesn't seem like a steep hill either.

Festhaus Park used to be nearly dead level when Drachen Fire was there. When Verbolten was built, a lot of the dirt filled that area and across the service road.
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Thank you and Zach both 👍🏻 Just trying to idealize what we are going to see in the next year. Overall, curious about the prospect of a long term development plan or taking advantage of an already built station and cleared parcel of land.
 
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I don’t think this has been posted yet, forgive me if I’m not on my A-game monitoring all the project documentation I can get my hands on I too am taking off the season, but here is the letter from the fire marshal. Glad to see them asking the same questions as us, what is the height of the track at the 2 dimensional buildings, are those two small/mediumish buildings for themeing. Maybe someone more knowledgeable then me will know the answers but is it odd they are questioning evacuation, isn’t that typical a staff lead thing ? Unless something unspeakable happens doesn’t the park handle those ?
 

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MIKEYT67 said:
Not sure if this has been asked Is this going to be a copy of Project Penguin in Orlando?
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Negative. Project Penguin became Pipeline.

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Hey you—yeah, you. I know you’re probably planning to skip past all this text as you go lookin’ for photos and videos. Though I’d certainly prefer that you read the whole piece, I know it’s fairly likely that you won’t. With that in mind, before you get goin’, could I ask for just a couple […]
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AlpenChariot said:
Negative. Project Penguin became Pipeline.

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BGWFans Leaks SeaWorld Orlando's Project Penguin – BGWFans

Hey you—yeah, you. I know you’re probably planning to skip past all this text as you go lookin’ for photos and videos. Though I’d certainly prefer that you read the whole piece, I know it’s fairly likely that you won’t. With that in mind, before you get goin’, could I ask for just a couple […]
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Project Penguin is being built now
 
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@MIKEYT67: For the record, you're right to be confused. SeaWorld Orlando, either unintentionally or intentionally, confused the matter a ton by falsely referring to Project Toboggan/Penguin Trek as Project Penguin early on. They were, 100%, either wrong or flat-out lying to divert people from the leaks. From the start, in public filings, Penguin has been Pipeline and Toboggan has been Penguin Trek.

Anyway, yeah, what @CoasterMac said above was spot-on.
 
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Zachary said:
@MIKEYT67: For the record, you're right to be confused. SeaWorld Orlando, either unintentionally or intentionally, confused the matter a ton by falsely referring to Project Toboggan/Penguin Trek as Project Penguin early on. They were, 100%, either wrong or flat-out lying to divert people from the leaks. From the start, in public filings, Penguin has been Pipeline and Toboggan has been Penguin Trek.

Anyway, yeah, what @CoasterMac said above was spot-on.
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then let me reask is it going to be a clone of Toboggon?
 
100% sure? No. We're not 100% certain that the sky will still be blue by the time BGW's next coaster opens. That said, there is very wide agreement that the plans, as filed with JCC, show a B&M invert. If you want a detailed recounting of the reasoning, read the BGWFans article and/or the discussions here on ParkFans from back when the plans surfaced. The issue was addressed ad nauseam.
 
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Another idea for this plot is a racing coaster that has a similar nature but has two cars going on the same track, and then a Firechaser Express-like turn around onto the opposite track. They could swerve around each other a bunch and still maintain the Holzfaller theming. I can imagine that being a good ride capacity-wise (two cars on the same track) and theming-wise (it obliges them to have some sort of themed endpoint). Would this be a viable thing to put here, assuming they improved the entrance?
 
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Skyride said:
Another idea for this plot is a racing coaster that has a similar nature but has two cars going on the same track, and then a Big Bear Mountain-like turn around onto the opposite track. They could swerve around each other a bunch and still maintain the Holzfaller theming. I can imagine that being a good ride capacity-wise (two cars on the same track) and theming-wise (it obliges them to have some sort of themed endpoint). Would this be a viable thing to put here, assuming they improved the entrance?
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I wouldn't think so.
 
Mk so I'm not in any way saying I think this is even remotely likely, but is it possible this is something by Jinma? Just in theory, not at all saying I think it could be them. I know there were thoosie rumors of them possibly expanding to America
 
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