Nora said:
Its true. Everything people say about him. His staff literally is afraid of losing their jobs if they say anything against him. He pushes people away if they will not listen or finds a reason to get rid of them. I am an example.
Mix It Up Has Been Canceled
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Its true. Everything people say about him. His staff literally is afraid of losing their jobs if they say anything against him. He pushes people away if they will not listen or finds a reason to get rid of them. I am an example.
The sad part about this is that there are now a few, good, talented performers that are out of a job. Also the park is down to one show with human performers (let's hope the animals get to keep their jobs) while the park guests have to suffer with a sub-par experience when they visit this weekend and will feel like they are not getting their money's worth. It also doesn't matter that the shows are about to change over to HOS as some of those shows may now, or probably are short personnel and have to scramble to adapt.
I really hope that when the dust settles that corporate takes action to hold those (mostly one as generally known) accountable and finds out the true story and not the false/altered version they will be told by park executive staff.
I also wonder how much of hit the parks reputation is going to take when all of this is posted on FB and other media sites, which you know it will. It's possible there could be some investors that won't be happy with the negative publicity and could demand changes.
I really hope that when the dust settles that corporate takes action to hold those (mostly one as generally known) accountable and finds out the true story and not the false/altered version they will be told by park executive staff.
I also wonder how much of hit the parks reputation is going to take when all of this is posted on FB and other media sites, which you know it will. It's possible there could be some investors that won't be happy with the negative publicity and could demand changes.
The pet show is run by an outside company. It *should* be safe.
I am so thankful I went last weekend and watched all the shows. I find all this very disappointing and discouraging.
chickenking said:
That is past tacky to be doing during park hours. Even more appalling that it is being done at a time that OTHER shows should be performing. Shows that guests are expecting to experience.. err this is modern BGW so I feel "expecting to view" is more applicable.
I get that there is a lot of bad stuff going on, but let's not compare the man to Hitler.
well, pandora, for better or worse, we all know Godwin's law: :dodgy: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
I have a question For Zachary regarding the MIU cancellation:
Why is there a chance that MIU might not be coming back next year?
Why is there a chance that MIU might not be coming back next year?
JuniorBGWfan28 said:
I think this was talked about in the Mix it Up thread, but basically the park doesn't yet know if it has the budget required to maintain five large productions during the main season (London Rocks!, Celtic Fyre, Entwined, This is Oktoberfest, and Mix it Up). Essentially, as far as the budget goes, London Rocks! may be replacing Mix it Up.
Zachary said:
Ummm. If SG is still here next year I think we all know the answer to this one, and if this does happen I will be livid, that is my favorite show in the park! If we're lucky maybe They'll keep TIO, and get rid of Entwined
, after all it doesn't take a genius to see that Entwined probably costs 2x what it costs to operate TIO.
lostcause said:
Welcome lostcause. You will see here that we are with, and support, the performers and artists and not current management or park motives. We appreciate all the hard work you do and what you have gone through.
^ Here, here, BGWFamily!!!
Edit: I totally forgot to mention that when I saw the picture CK posted with the times, I laughed out loud and woke my husband up!! "GASPARICH Fine Italian Chocolates" in the big heart box in the picture on the left! HAHAHA! Irony really hits my funny bone...
Nora, SDG, Lostcause, BGWFamily, thank you for your responses. I feel very enlightened to what has been going on in the park... Things I'm sure some of you have known about, or seen coming, but could not post out of decency and respect. It is so disappointing to find out that this man and the people who bow to his whims are running the park into the ground. Of course, I still think that this is just a symptom of a bigger problem. Everyone has a boss. (Except Hitler...) everyone has someone to hold them accountable. Those who are higher up than SG have a responsibility to make sure he is in check and is running the park properly. They have also failed.
When I read Nora's post about guests sitting out in the hot sun without so much as an annoucement for THAT long, I kept thinking, "This would NEVER happen at Disney." In fact, I'm pretty sure if they had to wait that long to scrape a show together, Disney would have sent some character or cast member out there to tell jokes or entertain the guests while they waited.
Yes, I know BGW is not Disney. Doesn't do as much business as Disney. Doesn't have the same man-power as Disney. But they COULD strive to have the same corporate culture as Disney. They COULD value their employees so much that they didn't walk off before a show. They COULD value their guests so highly that even if an employee walked, they immediately put on some kind of show, or made a personal apology to the guests, and maybe even offered a free drink or 10% off merch or some other consolation. They COULD have a PLAN for their money, so that they don't have to close their shows and attractions halfway through the season. But they have chosen not to. They have chosen to value money over the guest experience. They have chosen mediocrity. They have chosen to allow the declining standards of the park to take them down a notch, from one of the most beautiful family THEME parks this country has to offer... To just another amusement park. Just another place with roller coasters. There is a reason people fly from all over the world to see Disney World. And it's not just the rides. IT IS THE EXPERIENCE. And that starts with what happens BEHIND the scenes. That starts with how you train and value your employees. It starts with a drive for EXCELLENCE, instead of PROFIT. When you are excellent, money is a by-product. When your sole purpose is profit... The guest experience WILL suffer. And it drives people away. It kills brand loyalty. It divides and alienates your fan base. It breaks my heart to see what BGW COULD be in the right hands. In good, honest, hard working hands. And the saddest part about it, is that at one point in time, they were heading in that direction! I remember growing up in that park and thinking just how magical it was. How employees made me smile and I truly felt like I was transported to Europe! (An even awesomer version of Europe, that had roller coasters abound and yummier food, and certainly was easier and quicker to walk across. ) I remember a time when I didn't go to BGW for several years... Then I got married, and moved to MD. My husband and I could have gone to Six Flags. Cheaper, closer. But I insisted on BG, I didn't want to go to just any amusement park. We honeymooned in Williamsburg and have spent a lot of our married life in BGW! and he was blown away. He grew to love it like I loved it, like an old friend. I remember thinking BG was the closest thing to Disney in the area. Not anymore. And it pains me to think that the park may never bounce back from this. I don't know if it will ever be the way it was when we all loved it most. I just don't see anybody willing to step up and make the serious desperate changes that must be made to save the park.
Wow... Sorry guys for all that. I guess I just had a Zach moment while I was writing that. Like someone threw a rock through the beautiful stained glass in the Festhaus, and I can see my perception of the park (like a life long friend) shatter into tiny pieces. *sigh* I have a trip planned for CT this Christmas. Then, I think I'm going to be DONE with the park for a while.
Edit: I totally forgot to mention that when I saw the picture CK posted with the times, I laughed out loud and woke my husband up!! "GASPARICH Fine Italian Chocolates" in the big heart box in the picture on the left! HAHAHA! Irony really hits my funny bone...
Nora, SDG, Lostcause, BGWFamily, thank you for your responses. I feel very enlightened to what has been going on in the park... Things I'm sure some of you have known about, or seen coming, but could not post out of decency and respect. It is so disappointing to find out that this man and the people who bow to his whims are running the park into the ground. Of course, I still think that this is just a symptom of a bigger problem. Everyone has a boss. (Except Hitler...) everyone has someone to hold them accountable. Those who are higher up than SG have a responsibility to make sure he is in check and is running the park properly. They have also failed.
When I read Nora's post about guests sitting out in the hot sun without so much as an annoucement for THAT long, I kept thinking, "This would NEVER happen at Disney." In fact, I'm pretty sure if they had to wait that long to scrape a show together, Disney would have sent some character or cast member out there to tell jokes or entertain the guests while they waited.
Yes, I know BGW is not Disney. Doesn't do as much business as Disney. Doesn't have the same man-power as Disney. But they COULD strive to have the same corporate culture as Disney. They COULD value their employees so much that they didn't walk off before a show. They COULD value their guests so highly that even if an employee walked, they immediately put on some kind of show, or made a personal apology to the guests, and maybe even offered a free drink or 10% off merch or some other consolation. They COULD have a PLAN for their money, so that they don't have to close their shows and attractions halfway through the season. But they have chosen not to. They have chosen to value money over the guest experience. They have chosen mediocrity. They have chosen to allow the declining standards of the park to take them down a notch, from one of the most beautiful family THEME parks this country has to offer... To just another amusement park. Just another place with roller coasters. There is a reason people fly from all over the world to see Disney World. And it's not just the rides. IT IS THE EXPERIENCE. And that starts with what happens BEHIND the scenes. That starts with how you train and value your employees. It starts with a drive for EXCELLENCE, instead of PROFIT. When you are excellent, money is a by-product. When your sole purpose is profit... The guest experience WILL suffer. And it drives people away. It kills brand loyalty. It divides and alienates your fan base. It breaks my heart to see what BGW COULD be in the right hands. In good, honest, hard working hands. And the saddest part about it, is that at one point in time, they were heading in that direction! I remember growing up in that park and thinking just how magical it was. How employees made me smile and I truly felt like I was transported to Europe! (An even awesomer version of Europe, that had roller coasters abound and yummier food, and certainly was easier and quicker to walk across.
) I remember a time when I didn't go to BGW for several years... Then I got married, and moved to MD. My husband and I could have gone to Six Flags. Cheaper, closer. But I insisted on BG, I didn't want to go to just any amusement park. We honeymooned in Williamsburg and have spent a lot of our married life in BGW! and he was blown away. He grew to love it like I loved it, like an old friend. I remember thinking BG was the closest thing to Disney in the area. Not anymore. And it pains me to think that the park may never bounce back from this. I don't know if it will ever be the way it was when we all loved it most. I just don't see anybody willing to step up and make the serious desperate changes that must be made to save the park. Wow... Sorry guys for all that. I guess I just had a Zach moment while I was writing that. Like someone threw a rock through the beautiful stained glass in the Festhaus, and I can see my perception of the park (like a life long friend) shatter into tiny pieces. *sigh* I have a trip planned for CT this Christmas. Then, I think I'm going to be DONE with the park for a while.
Another massive update has been made to the main site post, here. Thanks a ton to ChickenKing for his continued information gathering and sharing. Couldn't do this without him!
Oh, and SOMEONE, please take notes this weekend about how all of this goes down with the mass crowds. Start a new thread if you must. I would like to know how this show shuffling is going to affect everyone on one of their busiest weekends.
Apparently someone thinks that guests will not realize that the Killarney Village Band and The Italian Ensemble are the same people/performers. So maybe there was no lie in what was said...ITALIAN ENSEMBLE HAS THE DAY OFF. As an entity, that was true. But, the performers were apparently in Ireland as the Killarney Village Band. I suppose the powers that be prefer to refer to the act versus the performers. Tells you a lot of about their character (see what I did there?).