Festa Italia Renovation/Retheme
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Yes..but one geared specifically to children, but that is off topic so lets end it at that
Yes..but one geared specifically to children, but that is off topic so lets end it at that
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Festa Italia's theme is a celebration, so a carnival theme makes sense, especially around HoS time
but that is besides the point. The theme is just not screaming out at guests. Heck most guests will ask which country their in because they are that thick headed. So Festa to them is just another place in the park.
Festa Italia's theme is a celebration, so a carnival theme makes sense, especially around HoS time
but that is besides the point. The theme is just not screaming out at guests. Heck most guests will ask which country their in because they are that thick headed. So Festa to them is just another place in the park.
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But none of those celebrations looked like a carnival.
Youhow2 said:
But none of those celebrations looked like a carnival.
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I fail to see how Festa looks like a carnival. A carnival is in a parking lot, with portable rides, operated by drunk carnies who don't give a damn about safety. Festa is in a theme park, with bright colors, a couple restaurants, an arcade, semi-portable rides, and employees who care a whole hell of a lot about safety. So does Festa=Carnival? No.By-Tor said:
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festa looks like a carnival compared to all of the other areas of the park. england,france,germany,scotland, ireland, and italy all somewhat resemble the country they represent. while festa on the other hand the only thing italian about it are names of places with italian references(roman frieze,roman rapids)
festa looks like a carnival compared to all of the other areas of the park. england,france,germany,scotland, ireland, and italy all somewhat resemble the country they represent. while festa on the other hand the only thing italian about it are names of places with italian references(roman frieze,roman rapids)
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I didn't say it was a carnival, I said it looks like one. It has games and flat rides often seen at real carnivals, plus it's color scheme and design evoke the assumption that everything is a temporary setup. I am saying this in a negative fashion. I wish that whole area had less of a (frankly) festive feel. Thats what Oktoberfest is for, and it pulls it off much better.
I didn't say it was a carnival, I said it looks like one. It has games and flat rides often seen at real carnivals, plus it's color scheme and design evoke the assumption that everything is a temporary setup. I am saying this in a negative fashion. I wish that whole area had less of a (frankly) festive feel. Thats what Oktoberfest is for, and it pulls it off much better.
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Carnival = Portable celebration including snack stands, games, and rides which are are temporary, bright red and white striped tents can be included in a circus atmosphere.
Festa Italia = Celebration including snack stands, games, and rides which CAN be temporary, dull reds, oranges, etc. are used to portray a somewhat dull look to the area.
They are very similar, as the rides (except RR and AC) can be moved with ease, they have snack stands with general snacks like soda, popcorn, etc. and games which are presented in permanent buildings the resemble tents, as well as all the rides are under some form of metal tent. The color schemes are the same, since carnivals are bright and attractive (supposedly) where as Festa is very dull and worn out. Also, red and white are not the scheme in Festa, where a Carnival would most likely have such colors.
In my opinion, yes Festa is setup to be like a carnival, but that was not it's main theme.
Carnival = Portable celebration including snack stands, games, and rides which are are temporary, bright red and white striped tents can be included in a circus atmosphere.
Festa Italia = Celebration including snack stands, games, and rides which CAN be temporary, dull reds, oranges, etc. are used to portray a somewhat dull look to the area.
They are very similar, as the rides (except RR and AC) can be moved with ease, they have snack stands with general snacks like soda, popcorn, etc. and games which are presented in permanent buildings the resemble tents, as well as all the rides are under some form of metal tent. The color schemes are the same, since carnivals are bright and attractive (supposedly) where as Festa is very dull and worn out. Also, red and white are not the scheme in Festa, where a Carnival would most likely have such colors.
In my opinion, yes Festa is setup to be like a carnival, but that was not it's main theme.
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Festa is a "celebration of Marco Polo's travels". And what do people do to celebrate? They hold carnivals. So Festa is technically a carnival. The rides/games/food joints are placed underneath ugly, faded "tents" that look kinda tacky. BTW: a celebration that uses dull colors is actually a bad thing. Celebrations are meant to have bright colors of all kinds to evoke happiness and joy, not faded colors that make the area feel like its overstayed its welcome.
There's no problem with theming areas to a traveling carnival. Disney did it with Dinoland USA (although I hear that area looks pretty tacky) and Toontown Fair. Dollywood seems to have a really nice carnival-themed area too.
The problem with Festa is that
A) The area feels like it needs a facelift. Even Apollo's Chariot is looking a bit faded compared to the dark purple I remember it being when I first came to BGW.
B) The park already has a carnival-themed area. Having two feels like overkill.
Modifying the theme and giving the buildings a facelift will definitely bring new life to the area. Throw in a solid anchor attraction and you have an area worth spending a bit of time in, not a dead-end area that you only go to for two rides and maybe the train before moving onto other areas of the park.
Festa is a "celebration of Marco Polo's travels". And what do people do to celebrate? They hold carnivals. So Festa is technically a carnival. The rides/games/food joints are placed underneath ugly, faded "tents" that look kinda tacky. BTW: a celebration that uses dull colors is actually a bad thing. Celebrations are meant to have bright colors of all kinds to evoke happiness and joy, not faded colors that make the area feel like its overstayed its welcome.
There's no problem with theming areas to a traveling carnival. Disney did it with Dinoland USA (although I hear that area looks pretty tacky) and Toontown Fair. Dollywood seems to have a really nice carnival-themed area too.
The problem with Festa is that
A) The area feels like it needs a facelift. Even Apollo's Chariot is looking a bit faded compared to the dark purple I remember it being when I first came to BGW.
B) The park already has a carnival-themed area. Having two feels like overkill.
Modifying the theme and giving the buildings a facelift will definitely bring new life to the area. Throw in a solid anchor attraction and you have an area worth spending a bit of time in, not a dead-end area that you only go to for two rides and maybe the train before moving onto other areas of the park.
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B) Festa was there first. If you think 2 carnival themed areas is overkill (personally I think it's overkill too) then ask them to revamp Oktoberfest, not Festa.
You say Festa needs a solid anchor attraction. So, you dont consider Apollo's Chariot to be an anchor attraction? What about Roman Rapids? Festa doesn't need another anchor attraction. It's perfectly fine with what it's got now.
A) Apollo's Chariot is planned to be repainted this upcoming off season. Then you'll get to see your dark purple.netdvn said:
B) Festa was there first. If you think 2 carnival themed areas is overkill (personally I think it's overkill too) then ask them to revamp Oktoberfest, not Festa.
You say Festa needs a solid anchor attraction. So, you dont consider Apollo's Chariot to be an anchor attraction? What about Roman Rapids? Festa doesn't need another anchor attraction. It's perfectly fine with what it's got now.
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i'm pretty sure he considers apollo's chariot and roman rapids to be anchor attractions. he just wants to see one more in festa. are you saying that Festa was added before ocktoberfest? if you are than that is completely false as ocktoberfest was added in 1976 and festa was added in like the early nineties/late eighties. they literaly just finished revamping ocktoberfest in may so they are not going to revamp it again?? i don't think that festa is a big area of concern for the park right now. there are most likely other countries that the park would like to revamp before festa.
i'm pretty sure he considers apollo's chariot and roman rapids to be anchor attractions. he just wants to see one more in festa. are you saying that Festa was added before ocktoberfest? if you are than that is completely false as ocktoberfest was added in 1976 and festa was added in like the early nineties/late eighties. they literaly just finished revamping ocktoberfest in may so they are not going to revamp it again?? i don't think that festa is a big area of concern for the park right now. there are most likely other countries that the park would like to revamp before festa.
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What I meant by Festa was there first, is that it was the first area to have bright and extravagant colors. Oktoberfest didn't have that until they revamped it.
What I meant by Festa was there first, is that it was the first area to have bright and extravagant colors. Oktoberfest didn't have that until they revamped it.
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Oktoberfest has always been themed around a celebration.because that's what Ocktoberfest really is, an annual celebration hosted in Munich, Germany each September, so it has always been themed around a carnival/celebration since it opened in 1976
Oktoberfest has always been themed around a celebration.because that's what Ocktoberfest really is, an annual celebration hosted in Munich, Germany each September, so it has always been themed around a carnival/celebration since it opened in 1976
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The last anchor attraction in Festa was built in 1999. Since then Oktoberfest has gotten 3 anchor attractions at the cost of one, a new eatery, two new shows (counting the Illuminights one plus one more if you wanna count Clocktoberfest), and a brand new facelift that was part of a 2-year plan.
What has Festa gotten? 3 point challenge? Festa looks exactly the same as it has when I first visited the park in 2001. Sure there's two anchor attractions to bring people to that area, but that area still looks like its in dire need of a facelift. There's no shows, no new rides, and it's located off the main path.
Oh and in case you were wondering.
A) Oktoberfest lost half of its anchors when BBW left (not to mention a classic). The park needed to fill that void.
B) 70s brown is NOT a good color for Oktoberfest. It pretty much needed a facelift more than Festa did. And as mentioned before, Oktoberfest was there long before Festa was. Sure Festa had nice colors first, but does that really even matter?
The last anchor attraction in Festa was built in 1999. Since then Oktoberfest has gotten 3 anchor attractions at the cost of one, a new eatery, two new shows (counting the Illuminights one plus one more if you wanna count Clocktoberfest), and a brand new facelift that was part of a 2-year plan.
What has Festa gotten? 3 point challenge? Festa looks exactly the same as it has when I first visited the park in 2001. Sure there's two anchor attractions to bring people to that area, but that area still looks like its in dire need of a facelift. There's no shows, no new rides, and it's located off the main path.
Oh and in case you were wondering.
A) Oktoberfest lost half of its anchors when BBW left (not to mention a classic). The park needed to fill that void.
B) 70s brown is NOT a good color for Oktoberfest. It pretty much needed a facelift more than Festa did. And as mentioned before, Oktoberfest was there long before Festa was. Sure Festa had nice colors first, but does that really even matter?
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This is the biggest reason Festa needs a new e-ticket attraction. For most people, the only thing that takes them into Festa Italia is Apollo's Chariot. Apollo's Chariot is right on the other side of the bridge so, aside from Roman Rapids (which has a limited audience to begin with and is very weather dependent), there's simply no draw in Festa to go beyond Turkish Delight.
netdvn said:
This is the biggest reason Festa needs a new e-ticket attraction. For most people, the only thing that takes them into Festa Italia is Apollo's Chariot. Apollo's Chariot is right on the other side of the bridge so, aside from Roman Rapids (which has a limited audience to begin with and is very weather dependent), there's simply no draw in Festa to go beyond Turkish Delight.
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what type of ride would that e-ticket most likely be? a dark ride? another coaster? and the only way to expand festa is by expanding over by where the stables are. what animals are currently there?
what type of ride would that e-ticket most likely be? a dark ride? another coaster? and the only way to expand festa is by expanding over by where the stables are. what animals are currently there?
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Does Festa even have the room for crowds with another major attraction? Think about it; we've already mentioned it's a dead end. The path weaves out and around various flat rides for the most part. The only area I can think where a new major attraction could be placed is beyond Roman Rapids. And even there, I'm not sure if it's feasible.
Does Festa even have the room for crowds with another major attraction? Think about it; we've already mentioned it's a dead end. The path weaves out and around various flat rides for the most part. The only area I can think where a new major attraction could be placed is beyond Roman Rapids. And even there, I'm not sure if it's feasible.
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They could always go the Six Flags route and expand into the parking lot
They could always go the Six Flags route and expand into the parking lot
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Could they get rid of that arcade, splashus maximus, and the food stand? All those could be moved around festa and they might be able to squeeze something in there?
Could they get rid of that arcade, splashus maximus, and the food stand? All those could be moved around festa and they might be able to squeeze something in there?