Project 2012

What type of coaster do you want?

  • Flyer

    Votes: 33 54.1%

  • Wooden

    Votes: 8 13.1%

  • Something Else

    Votes: 20 32.8%
  • Total voters
    61
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Call me crazy, but I'm a huge skeptic on this. I'm not saying that anything you guys have been posting or anything is false, I just won't believe it until I see it. I don't think that the employees have been duped by the park, especially because I've been told by my supervisor who works in Germany some other information.
 
These are the same people who told everyone that it was a 300 ft. coaster. This supervisor who works in Germany is wrong. They don't know much more than your average ride-op. We showed you evidence- what more do you want?
 
I believe you guys and all that, but I am also skeptic about the designer being Zierer. Honestly, why would Busch do this? To me it makes no sence at all.
 
Gropplo said:
I just can't fathom the fact that Zierer is going to go from kiddie rides to a top class coaster without gradually working their way up in the business. Busch has never just pulled a random manufacturer out of a hat and said "You guys are going to build our brand new, world class multi-launching coaster that will feature many firsts and a drop over our famous Rhine River, even though your tracks aren't built for it." I'm saying this because I've been told otherwise within the park.
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B&M would like to have a word with you.
 
If the park was going around telling all of their secrets to ride-ops and supervisors, nothing at the park would be a secret. If you've been told something, why not come out and tell us? What have you been told and what proof was given?


studiopzp said:
I think they need to see the long form birth certificate. :p
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PayneTrain said:
Gropplo said:
I just can't fathom the fact that Zierer is going to go from kiddie rides to a top class coaster without gradually working their way up in the business. Busch has never just pulled a random manufacturer out of a hat and said "You guys are going to build our brand new, world class multi-launching coaster that will feature many firsts and a drop over our famous Rhine River, even though your tracks aren't built for it." I'm saying this because I've been told otherwise within the park.
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B&M would like to have a word with you.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
I don't think you understand what I meant. I did not say they were telling us every single detail about it. I said that my supervisor told me the manufacturer.Busch does not actually come out and tell is anything...seriously were just as clueless as everyone else until we have a bi-annual meeting when they tell us more info, which probably won't happen until they've made a public statement about it...later this year.
And I'm not about to go telling the world what little info I have on this ride and put my job in jeopardy. I'm not saying I have set in stone proof of what I've been told, but based off of what Busch has done in the past, it makes perfect sense.
 
I don't know where it was posted or where the information came from... but somebody sid that the rumored cost was 17 mil.

Also. These corporations DON'T just build these coaster on faith, they build them KNOWING that the concept WILL work.

What I have heard is that companies in the business of coaster building first look around at the assortment of coasters companies out there, for certain products they offer and also inquire over new products in development.

I think, Busch looked at Intamin, Mack, Premier, Vekoma, Gerstlauer, and maybe some smaller companies like Zierer who had dabbled in LIM launch technology. They proposed the idea of a multi-launch coaster with dark ride elements and the moving track section. Companies like Intamin and Premier have had experience in technologies like these.... but Zierer may had provided the lowest price over Intamin. It's not like Intamin said no... but were just outbid by Zierer.

Just my speculation.
 
Well not exactly...all that we've seen from JCC is that video of the approval from March. And that only showed us the basic track layout and what parts of the environment would be affected by the ride. Other than that, nothing official has come from the park.

All I ask from Swiftman, or Chris, is where did you get those pictures and where did it specifically say that the manufacturer was Zierer? Also, where were the copyrights on the plans? I'm no law expert, but shouldn't they have had some kind of copyright from the park? Because all you guys said was that you got them from a reliable source. Why were there no copyrights and how could you guys legally put a watermark on them and not give credit to where you got the pictures?

Answer me thruthfully, and I shall believe. But for right now, I'll stay in my skepticism club.

Ps I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm being serious.
 
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Plans that are meant to be confidential between the owner, architect/civil engineer, and contractor have no reason to be copyrighted. Copyright is only needed for market use; showing ownership of original work in the public and for rights distributions.
 
Some of these statements are pretty sad. From years of talking to employees and being one you find quickly that the most smoke being blown out of a rear comes from employees. They seem to know it all :sleepy:
 
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Wait...are you talking about me? Because I apologize I I'm comig across as a "know it all"...my one, simple post was just taken out of proportion and I'm just trying to come up with answers
 
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