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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

I guess being a "child" I don't really have a say in this at. But I still wanna give my opinion any way on this whole age discussion. I do agree that some kids should not be able to go to this event. Last year I was astonished by parents bringing in 5 year olds into catacombs and other attractions. I even saw a couple bring in a baby, a BABY! This shouldn't be happening, but also I have to agree that some children are alot mature than adults. I have seen kids laugh and say that this is the best time of their life and I can't help but not smile. I think people should respect the idea that not all children are little demons sent to ruin Howloscream.
I guess there should be an 18+ house, but only to stop hearing adults complain about this. If you want more scares fine, but it will make "children" like me and others awful curious about the house.
I applaud all the scare actors from last year. And all the crap they had to go through last year. They are amazing, yes some could use some work, but overall I think they did a really, really good job. They shouldn't be told not to scare, just because of the children or adults who don't want to be scared. Scare actors are there to scare.
end of rant. I'm soooo excited for this years Howloscream:D
 
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I've read through the last bunch of pages, and I wanted to weigh in.

The teenagers/twentysomethings who act like jerks should just be punched in the head. They're not impressing anyone and they're not cool; they're idiots. Ideally, security would be allowed to step in and remove them. I did see someone get removed for apparently threatening to pull a knife on a scare actor in Hunted (or actually doing it). What are they thinking?

I have seen parents complaining to staff and management about their small children being scared after 6pm. ("How is little delicate flower supposed to get out of here with all these scary people running around???" "Well, ma'am, we have been saying all day to take your small children home before 6pm if they do not like being frightened..." "That's ridiculous! We want to stay, and these people shouldn't be here scaring everyone; I don't care if it's Halloween!") I've seen parents yell at scare actors, to prevent them from scaring their children (and those around them) and because they scared their children. I've been stuck with kids sobbing/wailing in houses when I was trying to enjoy myself and had to listen to parents yell at the actors for having the audacity to scare them. Although there are good, responsible parents who make smart decisions on what is appropriate for their children, there are enough out there who are nothing but a problem. No, there's not really any way to fix this, but it is a huge annoyance.

As far as the pumpkin ratings and MSR and Bitten having the same rank - I believe that ranking said the attraction might have parts that are inappropriate for those under 17. Some people don't want their kids seeing half-naked men in leather pants writhing around or sultry witches dancing seductively on broomsticks. I personally don't see the problem, but I can imagine that some parents would freak out. See above.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Waiting to turn 18 imo is just like waiting to get tall enough to ride your first rollercoaster... No difference at all. I was awfully curious about the big rides before I hit 52-54inches. It's fair.
 
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I actually think MSR is a little suggestive, but it's not worse than PG-13. As far as not having to deal with the obnoxious people: most of the people I see doing that bs are a bunch of cools in their early 20's, so I don't think an 18+ would help that. I have absolutely no problem with a pay-to-play house; I actually think that's a sweet idea. I DO think that scare actors on the streets should use some discretion about who they scare, but I think they all probably already do that, so no correction is required.

I guess it's just that I would never think to go to a web forum for Universal's HHN event and ask them to "expand the audience" and build a couple of houses for my 6 year old (I don't have a 6 year old...it's just an example). So it strikes me as very odd for people to insist that BG build 18+ houses, and bloody massacre houses, and adult-only attractions when they know full well that for 13 years BG has produced an event that is by-and-large a 12 and up kind of thing. Kids houses don't belong at HHN in my mind, and neither do R-rated attractions belong at BG.

That's just my take on it.
 
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

I think Busch should do an 18+ maze, even tho I am not 18. And people saying "it would not be fair to kids," that is like saying it is not fair for a teenager to go into a bar. Just wait til you turn 18 and you can go in!
 
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michaelcollier1 said:
I think Busch should do an 18+ maze, even tho I am not 18. And people saying "it would not be fair to kids," that is like saying it is not fair for a teenager to go into a bar. Just wait til you turn 18 and you can go in!

Another poster up there is also under 18. She said the same thing you did.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

ScoutN said:
michaelcollier1 said:
I think Busch should do an 18+ maze, even tho I am not 18. And people saying "it would not be fair to kids," that is like saying it is not fair for a teenager to go into a bar. Just wait til you turn 18 and you can go in!

Another poster up there is also under 18. She said the same thing you did.

Oh haha, there was 6 pages for me to read and I just stopped reading :p
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Well we know its a scarezone, and according to a source said its name is scavengers. Maybe rats like they had last year in france. Or voltures either way I could be wrong. But I'm excited for the release.
 
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spookybri said:
Well we know its a scarezone, and according to a source said its name is scavengers. Maybe rats like they had last year in france. Or voltures either way I could be wrong. But I'm excited for the release.

Scavengers... maybe it will be the rats and the Banbury Cross crows from last year... Hmm....
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

DoctorMoneyMD said:
I guess it's just that I would never think to go to a web forum for Universal's HHN event and ask them to "expand the audience" and build a couple of houses for my 6 year old (I don't have a 6 year old...it's just an example). So it strikes me as very odd for people to insist that BG build 18+ houses, and bloody massacre houses, and adult-only attractions when they know full well that for 13 years BG has produced an event that is by-and-large a 12 and up kind of thing. Kids houses don't belong at HHN in my mind, and neither do R-rated attractions belong at BG.

For this I'm going to address the issue of small children in houses because we all know the 20 something drunks really don't care about what their actions do. Despite my personal wish that the earth would open up and swallow every Abercrombie and Fitch store along with all their clientele, there's nothing that can be done until all kill themselves with Four Loco.

The reason people want an 18+ house is because the park does a very poor job of saying "this is for 12+". Even if the park did communicate it better, parents feel so entitled that they ignore it and the people who ultimately suffer are the people who waited half an hour to go through the house. It's kind of like parents who think, "It's only PG-13, maybe my kid can handle this" as opposed to, "This is rated R, no way I'm going to let little Jimmy watch this." Have "Elmo's Magical Pumpkin Carving Adventure" or whatever during the day, but on a holiday about fear, make it scary!

Think about it this way, you want an authentic Oktoberfest, I want an authentic Halloween.


edit: A vulture themed scare zone would be so awesome.
 
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Oh, I'm not getting into "what Halloween means to me" again (for full details, read about 10 pages ago).

I will say that I haven't ever had the experience of a little kid going through the house and their parents freaking out. Not saying it doesn't happen...just saying I've never seen it. I have seen Mr. Tough, 22-year-old bassing up on some teenage maze-worker, but even that is pretty rare, I think.

I have never left HoS disappointed or feeling like I had wasted my time, which probably also contributes to my lack of desire to see the place "souped up." I have always found it to be scary enough, or at least, just as scary as anything else I'd ever done (whether it was a stand alone haunted house or a hayride or one of those walk-in-the-woods type deals). I feel like there are just so many places already that feature that bloody-murder version of Halloween that I don't see the need for another one. I like having Busch Gardens as an option for a more festive event, and don't want to see it changed to yet another psycho-killer, blood and guts, "can you handle it!?!?!" haunt.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

That's not what we're asking for, I commend BG for breaking the mold as far as the theming of the scares. Just leave a single house to the big kids. I mean I would be perfectly happy if they took an existing house and make it pay and\or 18+ without any modifications. Think of it as an adult swim thing, just get the kids out of the pool so the old people won't be bothered.
 
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

I agree with you doc, I love the classic halloween, not this saw or some psycotic murderer. Give me witches and vampires any day. But the only reason I agree is because I get squirmish to that kinda stuff very easily. But some people may like that kind of halloween and I'm not hatin because they like it that way.

Hmmm quite:sleepy:, crows and rats. Roadkill, skeletons of their prey. *dun, dun, DUN
 
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studiopzp said:
Think of it as an adult swim thing, just get the kids out of the pool so the old people won't be bothered.

See, I thought adult swim was stupid when I was a kid, and at 28 I still think it's stupid. Maybe I just don't hate kids enough.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

I feel as a twenty something guy who drinks a lot we should differentiate between the douchebags vs non douchebags. when do I become a regular drunk?
 
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Parents should have no reason to complain about HOS bein to scary for there children, thats kindve what their jobs are, the park does open at 10, and you can take them then and leave before 6.
 
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