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Manufacturer
ZIERER

Model
Elevated Seating Coaster w/ Vertical Drop Element

Hamlet
Oktoberfest (Germany)

Official Opening
May 18, 2012

Soft Opening
May 11, 2012

Tallest Drop
88ft


Top Speed
53mph

Inversion Count
0

Launch Segments
2

Riders Per Train
16

Number of Trains
5

Height Requirement
48in



Verbolten is an indoor/outdoor ZIERER Elevated Seating Coaster that features a Vertical Drop Element. It officially opened in mid-May 2012 on the site formally occupied by the Arrow Suspended Coaster, Big Bad Wolf.


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Development Documentary​

Ride Recordings​

On-Ride Videos​

Backstage Footage​

 
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Getting back to the greying out thing, wasn't that said by the ones presenting the ride, that there was a grey-out zone? I remember there being mention of it before the ride even opened.

That being said, I have to sit within the first 4 rows of any given coaster, otherwise I'll get a headache. (Excluding small coasters/kiddie coasters, and I haven't been on a wooden one since my last KD trip in the early 2000s, but I'd imagine that I'd be fine on those too.) But, Bolt is the only one where I have to sit in the left seat for the best ride.
 
Evan said:
Not seeing anything about Verbolten being/ not being iconic.

I never said Verbolten was/was not iconic. I said, I wouldn't get rid of it first because it is the most recent.

Though, I would go so far to say the Rhine River drop is fairly iconic or it at least has the opportunity to be iconic.
 
Party Rocker said:
I have a much different idea of what I consider to be iconic. I don't consider that iconic. I consider that to be notable attention. Iconic to me is more about the look of the ride. For example, LNM's loops are iconic. Iconic to me refers to any part of the ride that is used as an icon, such as Nessie's interlocking loops.

Notable attention IS part of being iconic.
 
I think their different things. I feel iconic is more about bring an icon, an image or symbol that is widely popular and well-known. Griffon's drop is iconic, Apollo's lift hill is iconic.

Like I said about Verbolten, it is relatively new so it may not really be iconic at the moment, but later on through the years, that drop over the Rhine River can become very iconic.
 
I feel like I got this thread off topic so I'll attempt to get it back, once the ride picks up speed at the second launch I have no problems with the jerkiness of the ride. It seems like that would be the worst because you are going the fastest. Maybe it's not the track itself but rather the poor design of the indoor portion of the ride?
 
Party Rocker said:
For example, LNM's loops are iconic. Iconic to me refers to any part of the ride that is used as an icon, such as Nessie's interlocking loops.

Party Rocker said:
I would get rid of Loch Ness Monster before Verbolten.

So... It's an icon, but you'd get rid of it.
 
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He'd get rid of it because it's old. You know, it's old, a record breaker, a record holder, and a roller coaster landmark, so what's wrong with getting rid of it?
 
I am patiently holding my tongue, if you don't like what I said, ignore it. Do not misinterpret my opinions to insult me.
 
Evan's suggestion a dozen posts ago about being 'on topic' is hereby acknowledged...Verbolten's 'iconic' feature is the DROP. And hopefully this ends that part of the discussion. Some peeps are calling the issue, 'vibrations'... IMO this is a naive summary of the coasters performance. Others are comparing it to a 'jackhammer'. I feel this is an exaggeration of it's performance. It is somewhere in the middle, which is obviously causing discomfort to people who frequent the park. I think the credibility of the manufacturer needs to be brought into the discussion. (I'm researching out of curiosity)
 
Zierer hasn't built that many coasters, so it's a bit hard to talk about their credibility. A lot of what they've done is kid coaster stuff, like Grover. I've never felt any of the discomfort that people complain about, but it looks like I'm the odd one out. I'm curious as to whether it is a track or a wheel problem that makes people so prone to gray-outs in the helix.
 
b.mac said:
You guys realize that B&M inverts are practically indestructable right? I mean Six Flags Fiesta Texas has Goliath which literally survived Hurricane Katrina. There's a reason why 100% of B&Ms are still operating around the world.

Not denying the fact that B & M's are strong, but San Antonio didn't get hit by Katrina. San Antonio is 550ish miles from New Orleans. They may have gotten some rain and a little wind, but nothing hurricane force.
 
Planeteer said:
b.mac said:
You guys realize that B&M inverts are practically indestructable right? I mean Six Flags Fiesta Texas has Goliath which literally survived Hurricane Katrina. There's a reason why 100% of B&Ms are still operating around the world.

Not denying the fact that B & M's are strong, but San Antonio didn't get hit by Katrina. San Antonio is 550ish miles from New Orleans. They may have gotten some rain and a little wind, but nothing hurricane force.

Goliath at Six Flags Fiesta Texas was Batman:The Ride at Six Flags New Orleans when Katrina hit.
 
Unagi said:
Planeteer said:
b.mac said:
You guys realize that B&M inverts are practically indestructable right? I mean Six Flags Fiesta Texas has Goliath which literally survived Hurricane Katrina. There's a reason why 100% of B&Ms are still operating around the world.

Not denying the fact that B & M's are strong, but San Antonio didn't get hit by Katrina.  San Antonio is 550ish miles from New Orleans.  They may have gotten some rain and a little wind, but nothing hurricane force.

Goliath at Six Flags Fiesta Texas was Batman:The Ride at Six Flags New Orleans when Katrina hit.

I was unaware of that. Sorry. Makes sense now.
 
In my opinion Verbolten is a bit of a let down for what I was expecting. I was hoping we would get another Griffon styled thrill ride. The GP was thinking why should we ride a family coaster if one of the most intense coaster is only about an hour away. I like Verbolten and all but it was just a little to sad to see a legendary coaster leave to make for a pretty decent family coaster. I really wanted to see a autobahn themed coaster that was fast and tall. The reason I say this is because think about how much money Griffon pulled in while how much money Verbolten brought to our fabulous budget. It might just be the minority talking inside of me but, imagine launching up 300 feet in the air to plunge down to the Rhine River at the Speed of Fright once again.
EDIT:Well I am a minority so scratch that.
 
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Interesting point, Connor, but I'm guessing the park saw BBW as a family coaster and wanted something else for that niche when replacing it.

I just wish VBolt wasn't so rough -- I like Back Lot Stunt Coaster a lot more and wish VBolt were similar in smoothness.
 
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The park couldn't build a 300 foot coaster. Even if they wanted to. The city wouldn't allow it.

Is the ride really running THAT poorly now? When I rode it on the second to last day of Christmas Town, it was running amazingly well. The ride can get really rattly during the season, but it's nowhere near as rough as any of the wooden coasters I've ridden (granted I've only ridden a handful). I'd even go out on a limb and say if you really wanna experience true coaster jackhammering, ride Gwazi. That ride will literally shake the brains out of you if you rode enough times.

It's a great family coaster and the public seems to enjoy it a lot. It's not meant to be the biggest or fastest, but it provides a very solid ride.
 
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