Project 2025/Holzfäller: Big Bad Wolf 2 (B&M Family Invert)
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Expanding on this my source is saying it is not a done deal either way but that there are decent odds that it will end up bring a project saved for 2025 but no final decision on that.
This sounds kinda similar to what is happening down in Tampa. I'ts hard enough to get parts to keep the existing stuff open ATM, ordering parts for new rides is gonna take significantly longer too, and we are getting pretty late to start that process for a 2024 opening.
That's why I said "As of right now." As we know things can change at the last minute so I wasn't stating something set in stone.
If I hear of any delays I'll post them here.
Not to mention the fact it would fit their typical model (2021-2022 excluded for delayed reasons) of doing a coaster then a flat ride/family attraction then a coaster.
IPaC has recently updated their boundary for the Northern Long Eared Bat:
IPaC: Information for Planning and Consultation
IPaC is a project planning tool that streamlines the USFWS environmental review process.
If I draw a circle in the area of Festhaus Park, the bat is indicated to be found in this area. BGW will likely fall under the time of year restriction for clearing unless, like you stated, they do a species study and find there are no bats in the clearing limits or they start clearing operations early.
Those species studies are a little tricky. We did one a few years back and ended up finding a species at one of our sites we weren't anticipating even being there and that raised a whole new set of restrictions.....
Seen this a bunch of times. As much as you want to protect every species, sometimes if you have a window to clear without having to do a study it’s better to take it.IPaC has recently updated their boundary for the Northern Long Eared Bat:
IPaC: Information for Planning and Consultation
IPaC is a project planning tool that streamlines the USFWS environmental review process.ipac.ecosphere.fws.gov
If I draw a circle in the area of Festhaus Park, the bat is indicated to be found in this area. BGW will likely fall under the time of year restriction for clearing unless, like you stated, they do a species study and find there are no bats in the clearing limits or they start clearing operations early.
Those species studies are a little tricky. We did one a few years back and ended up finding a species at one of our sites we weren't anticipating even being there and that raised a whole new set of restrictions.....
I have also had the experience of finding an endangered species on site that was not expected. It was a bureaucratic and paperwork nightmare.IPaC has recently updated their boundary for the Northern Long Eared Bat:
IPaC: Information for Planning and Consultation
IPaC is a project planning tool that streamlines the USFWS environmental review process.
If I draw a circle in the area of Festhaus Park, the bat is indicated to be found in this area. BGW will likely fall under the time of year restriction for clearing unless, like you stated, they do a species study and find there are no bats in the clearing limits or they start clearing operations early.
Those species studies are a little tricky. We did one a few years back and ended up finding a species at one of our sites we weren't anticipating even being there and that raised a whole new set of restrictions.....
I took a look that that tool, it is quite useful. Thank you for providing the link. One thing I did notice by using it at BG is that there is no 'critical habitat'. That may be a key to helping facilitate development. I know that F&W show the bat's range way down into North Carolina. The F&W reports also show the highest concentration of bats in the mountains. I know that doesn't preclude them from being down in Tidewater or central Virginia. But those reports may be helpful in determining actual viable habitat and locations.
I'd like to think something that could fit there without clearing trees would be a good option. A hyper coaster sized version of Goliath at Six Flags Great America would fit in the spot that's already cleared and can utilize the existing infrastructure with the high point in the same spot as the permits. The only thing that would have to get rerouted is the service roads.
Might be a bit of a short ride to most of us here but that's definitely a beautiful looking ride that I think would use that half of Festhaus Park wonderfully. The other cleared half of the park could still be used for seasonal events.
Might be a bit of a short ride to most of us here but that's definitely a beautiful looking ride that I think would use that half of Festhaus Park wonderfully. The other cleared half of the park could still be used for seasonal events.
Although I am very strongly leaning towards the RMC route at the moment, I also know that B&M has some interesting projects down the pipeline(no pun intended) without knowing where they might be going. Either way, whatever the park has in store for the next coaster I expect to be quite significant.
I wasn't sure if it was one side of an I-box track or raptor track. I thought it was I-box track.
I'm not really in the loop about upcoming RMC coasters. This just peaked my interest. It's a little soon for manufacturing track for this though probably.
I'm not really in the loop about upcoming RMC coasters. This just peaked my interest. It's a little soon for manufacturing track for this though probably.
I skimmed over the caption, saw the Reddit comments.
Yeah, guessing it's not bound for BGW unless we start seeing further JCC permits filed, trees cleared, and any other construction indicators in the next month or two. I highly doubt RMC is prepping track that far ahead otherwise.
Yeah, guessing it's not bound for BGW unless we start seeing further JCC permits filed, trees cleared, and any other construction indicators in the next month or two. I highly doubt RMC is prepping track that far ahead otherwise.
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