Project 2025/Holzfäller: Big Bad Wolf 2 (B&M Family Invert)
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Hybrid. The larger single rails are said to be kind of lower tier RMC plus the capacity would not work for bgw (not that that’s stopped them from building low capacity coasters but still)
Hybrid. Here is my thoughts: Although the raptor single rail coaster is cool and innovative, of all the ones that have opened, there doesn't seem to be as much hype surrounding this model when compared to Hybrid Coasters. Hybrid coasters have a big draw, following, and obsession. I can only see this model being most likely if it is an RMC.
That layout feels like the result of RMCing an existing coaster, not what RMC would do with a ground-up layout. It does way too much meandering about at high altitudes requiring enormous, entirely original structures. If you look at Zadra or ArieForce One, you see elements that almost always start and end at ground level, lots of support structures being used for multiple segments of track, etc.
It also feels like that layout wasn't designed to take the park into account much at all. Unclear to me if the terrain/site dimensions are even realistic with the known highest point, Verbolten, the Rhine, the Railroad, etc. Plus, we know a bunch of soil tests have been conducted out in the Boneyard, but I don't see this layout making it's way out there at all?
I mean sure, it's a cool NoLimits coaster, but as a BGW Project 2024 concept, it seems pretty lacking to me.
It also feels like that layout wasn't designed to take the park into account much at all. Unclear to me if the terrain/site dimensions are even realistic with the known highest point, Verbolten, the Rhine, the Railroad, etc. Plus, we know a bunch of soil tests have been conducted out in the Boneyard, but I don't see this layout making it's way out there at all?
I mean sure, it's a cool NoLimits coaster, but as a BGW Project 2024 concept, it seems pretty lacking to me.
Yeah that's quite a lazy "concept", if you can even call it that. Doubt any Google Earth overlays or site info was used for that, most likely just an RMC coaster in a castle-ish station to get some clicks.
One thought on the hybrid coaster is I could see that posing a much great challenge in the height waver area then many rides we have seen based on it thicker more box structure being more visible. I believe BGW likely has the economic clout to push it through the JCC permit process but I would expect a significant and very loud fight from King's Mill and we may learn more about the ride then we usually do from that process as a result.
I was watching Coaster Studios prediction, and while I don't see it happening, I would love to see a Mack Extreme Spinning Coaster. Coaster Studios mentioned that someone from Mack said they could go more extreme with the ride model (taller maybe to hit the 220ft height waiver???). It'd be the first of it's kind on the east coast, there is only 1 other that I know of in the states and extremely unique. The ride model seems to allow for some nice custom trains. Definitely a pipe dream, but I would love to see an Extreme Spinning coaster nearby.
108 to 220 is quite the jump to make.
Knife-shaped lattice structure comes to mind...
Really depends on layout mixed with terrain and placement. If they were to only have a massive lift hill over grade then head towards a lower elevation for subsequent high points, facing in a way that minimizes the view of the ride over the trees, then I'm sure there's going to be objections but not as much.
Based on Darkoaster, BGW would just reuse the steampunk spinning trains from Time Traveler and theme it around a robot dragon that shoots lightning or something
I love the xtreme spinner concept but it seems better suited for a more compact layout rather than something sprawling which it seems project 2024 will be
I think you missed where I was going with that - it's relevant in that that was the explanation Suzy gave for how KM residents would see the spike of DS, it's conceivable a similar explanation would be given during a community meeting for this ride.
Disagree on this. It’s a different ride that could be facing a different direction with a completely different structure. It will get its own description when the time is right.
“Scaffolding like structure”
“Two pillars connected by a thin structure”
“Pyramid like structure with plenty of open space”
“Singular unbroken line pointing upward”
(My personal favorite from an actual coaster discription) “A thin yellow ribbon dancing in the sky supported by the sky.”
I’m sure I could have plenty more ways to describe amusement rides given more time.
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