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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
And if anyone needed to see just how incestuous the sourcing of all of this "information" is, this, my friends, illustrates it perfectly.
A bunch of people are sitting around chatting about completely unevidenced claims on Instagram like they're fact and then proceeding to "leak" it to each other in this huge, fragmented, disjointed circlejerk of people who all claim to be in the know. It's absolutely mindnumbing. It's to the point where even if there was, once, an ounce of truth behind it, it is now impossible to verify anything because of the gigantic game of telephone.
Like always, to any of you people involved in this mess: Message me with evidence and we'll chat ad nauseum. The claims without data or solid sourcing are worthless though.
UPDATE: MadridBot deleted the post I quoted above. That said, above is a direct quote of what was originally said, preserved for posterity. Again, I'm not looking to publicly crucify MadridBot, I have vouched for his character repeatedly in this thread and I don't regret doing so. That said, now that other people are randomly coming out of the woodwork claiming the same, people need to know that it's all circular.
And if anyone needed to see just how incestuous the sourcing of all of this "information" is, this, my friends, illustrates it perfectly.
MadridBot said:
A bunch of people are sitting around chatting about completely unevidenced claims on Instagram like they're fact and then proceeding to "leak" it to each other in this huge, fragmented, disjointed circlejerk of people who all claim to be in the know. It's absolutely mindnumbing. It's to the point where even if there was, once, an ounce of truth behind it, it is now impossible to verify anything because of the gigantic game of telephone.
Like always, to any of you people involved in this mess: Message me with evidence and we'll chat ad nauseum. The claims without data or solid sourcing are worthless though.
UPDATE: MadridBot deleted the post I quoted above. That said, above is a direct quote of what was originally said, preserved for posterity. Again, I'm not looking to publicly crucify MadridBot, I have vouched for his character repeatedly in this thread and I don't regret doing so. That said, now that other people are randomly coming out of the woodwork claiming the same, people need to know that it's all circular.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
I'm fairly certain the source is Trump at this point.
I'm fairly certain the source is Trump at this point.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Spoiler: He's not. Source: I've spoken to MadridBot on Instagram at length.
madmax said:
Spoiler: He's not. Source: I've spoken to MadridBot on Instagram at length.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
It appears that there may be some circular reporting going on. I found a good explanation of the phenomenon on Wikipedia. Here is a portion of the article:
It appears that there may be some circular reporting going on. I found a good explanation of the phenomenon on Wikipedia. Here is a portion of the article:
Wikipedia said:
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
"Iron Toro" to spite Six Flags.
"Iron Toro" to spite Six Flags.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
^Twisted Toros?
^Twisted Toros?
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
At this point I want it to be a Star flyer because of insane this thread has become.
It's also clearly going to be called "Toro: The Blast Coaster".
At this point I want it to be a Star flyer because of insane this thread has become.
It's also clearly going to be called "Toro: The Blast Coaster".
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
I feel like measuring out the area that has had markers and drillings vs some of the biggest roller coasters and hamlets.
In my concept thread I measured out Fiesta field and it was almost the same size as Festa Italia. I don't think people are grasping just how big the area from Drachen station to the high point is.
A few theories for me:
~The soil drilling is to make sure the conduit that they are laying won't hit any old DF footers, won't hit and soft spots, and won't hit bedrock. Without knowing exactly where each hole is drilled I wouldn't 100% conclude it's footer work because we know electrical work is going on back there too.
~The station will overlook the river if they want the lift hill to cross in order to make the lift look more dramatic, has a quick turnaround, comes back for a twister style layout. Thinking Titan style coaster.
~This isn't a coaster, and they are doing all the drill just because they are there.
Pretzel Kaiser said:
I feel like measuring out the area that has had markers and drillings vs some of the biggest roller coasters and hamlets.
In my concept thread I measured out Fiesta field and it was almost the same size as Festa Italia. I don't think people are grasping just how big the area from Drachen station to the high point is.
A few theories for me:
~The soil drilling is to make sure the conduit that they are laying won't hit any old DF footers, won't hit and soft spots, and won't hit bedrock. Without knowing exactly where each hole is drilled I wouldn't 100% conclude it's footer work because we know electrical work is going on back there too.
~The station will overlook the river if they want the lift hill to cross in order to make the lift look more dramatic, has a quick turnaround, comes back for a twister style layout. Thinking Titan style coaster.
~This isn't a coaster, and they are doing all the drill just because they are there.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Overlaying other rides' layouts onto the current field/park areas of BGW in Google Maps or (if you're weird) Bing Maps gives a pretty good feel for the size of the collective space they have available there vs. space needs for a big coaster.
I recall that we went through that exercise many pages back... What I learned from it is that the available space is big, but 300+ foot coasters tend to be absolutely sprawling in their space needs. Even twister layouts like I305 occupy a Herculean footprint. The space goes quickly.
That said... a fast ride with a lot of high points might make for plenty of room beneath/alongside. Hamlet acreage?
I don't really buy the idea that a conventional lift would start anywhere near the old DF station and peak over at a precipice of Festa field. Seems like an unnecessarily complex and generally sub-optimal use of that big space. The Rhine view would be totally dominated by a long-span uber-rainbow of lift and drop, which wouldn't make great use of the topography...
Overlaying other rides' layouts onto the current field/park areas of BGW in Google Maps or (if you're weird) Bing Maps gives a pretty good feel for the size of the collective space they have available there vs. space needs for a big coaster.
I recall that we went through that exercise many pages back... What I learned from it is that the available space is big, but 300+ foot coasters tend to be absolutely sprawling in their space needs. Even twister layouts like I305 occupy a Herculean footprint. The space goes quickly.
That said... a fast ride with a lot of high points might make for plenty of room beneath/alongside. Hamlet acreage?
I don't really buy the idea that a conventional lift would start anywhere near the old DF station and peak over at a precipice of Festa field. Seems like an unnecessarily complex and generally sub-optimal use of that big space. The Rhine view would be totally dominated by a long-span uber-rainbow of lift and drop, which wouldn't make great use of the topography...
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
I don't see that either. [Assuming any relation to the water,] the Rhine is for a drop, not a lift hill. That's also extra height and complexity to construct tall supports over the water. I don't know where the lift hill will rise, but over the water isn't it.
halfabee said:
I don't see that either. [Assuming any relation to the water,] the Rhine is for a drop, not a lift hill. That's also extra height and complexity to construct tall supports over the water. I don't know where the lift hill will rise, but over the water isn't it.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
The speculation for this new coaster is going to drive the coaster enthusiasts of Virginia insane. Hopefully it all plays out to be something amazing!
The speculation for this new coaster is going to drive the coaster enthusiasts of Virginia insane. Hopefully it all plays out to be something amazing!
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
As a reminder, before any coaster enthusiasts go “insane," we still have no idea what Project Madrid is. We have seen speculation ranging from a new hamlet to a flat ride to a coaster to some combination of the three.
As a reminder, before any coaster enthusiasts go “insane," we still have no idea what Project Madrid is. We have seen speculation ranging from a new hamlet to a flat ride to a coaster to some combination of the three.
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