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Gotcha, thanks! I was just asking, because I was wondering if it would be at all possible BG could get a giga coaster in the future
 
Dr. Jay Money Ed.D said:
I read an article about a dude who built a roller coaster in his own backyard. Not being an engineer, the man knew nothing about the physics required for a standard powerless coaster. So, he did an ingenious (but highly logical) thing:

He made the car self-propelled.

I am not a coaster enthusiast, and I don't know about the latest technologies and such regarding roller coasters, but it is my general understanding that, aside from a launch or lift mechanism, they are quite literally "coasters", in that they do not move under their own locomotive power.

So, would it not stand to reason that, if you actually powered the train, you could pull off maneuvers not possible using a standard coasting vehicle?

Ever since I read the article about the backyard roller coaster guy, I've been thinking about the implications of this at theme park scale.

Anyway...they should build a that.

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EDIT: A quick bit of research just now shows that these things do exist, but usually in small, kiddy-ride fair type configurations. I'm talking about high-powered, high speed applications.
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So, say the train was at the bottom of the first drop. The train would be able to speed itself up to perhaps go through the biggest inversion in history?!?! :shocked:
 
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I imagine that this ride application would not be known as a coaster by definition. It's to large to be a flat ride. And it's not a dark ride. What is it?!?
 
I may be confused, but are we referring to "Powered coasters?"
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Powered Coaster - a roller coaster that is electrically powered throughout the entire ride.

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As far as my understanding, powered coasters, while technically "coasters," don't count to some as roller coasters due to their use of electrically self-propelled movement through the course, instead of gravity freely providing the momentum.
From CoasterGallery.com's Joel Rogers:
On the right is the grey track and red train of Pikajuna, Finnish for "Express". While it looks like a roller coaster, it is electrically powered throughout the entire circuit, so I don't count it as a roller coaster.
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There are plenty of these out there, but the majority of them are kiddy coasters.
This is one of the largest powered coasters I've found (it's from Zamperla.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OHDztCcL4
Warning: The music in this video is terrible... Prepare your mute button...

The ride doesn't look too thrilling, but it looks nice and natural and fits the area well. I love the interaction it has with other park attractions, as its ride model, Zamperla's Super Express claims it can do.

I wouldn't mind something like this somewhere in the park, but they would be burned badly if they marketed it like any other "roller coaster." It would be cool if they considered it some "high-speed runaway train track adventure" or something, though, not using the term, "coaster..." (just going off the basic train theme in the video.)

Hopefully we're having the same conversation and this clears some stuff up. :)
 
Why would anybody get their panties in a bunch over the train being powered? Are there really people who would get indignant about something like that? If it were faster than a normal coaster, could pull off maneuvers that would be impossible for powerless trains, etc., I think people would quickly dump their reservations.
 
That's just it though. It takes too much power in order to make the trains go beyond a certain speed. I haven't heard of a powered coaster going beyond 40 mph, and if they wanted to go faster the size of the motors and the electrical power needed would be too large to effectively use. Beyond 40 mph you're better off using a launch in order to get above those speeds.
 
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b.mac said:
That's just it though. It takes too much power in order to make the trains go beyond a certain speed. I haven't heard of a powered coaster going beyond 40 mph, and if they wanted to go faster the size of the motors and the electrical power needed would be too large to effectively use. Beyond 40 mph you're better off using a launch in order to get above those speeds.
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You right.

I wonder if it could be used for certain application then....hmmm. Maybe not. Maybe it's only practical application would be for personal, home-kit roller coasters.

If we can't have this, I want a wooden coaster. And that's final.
 
As long as the wooden coaster doesn't get a bunch of random tunnels for noise, then I really want one. Couldn't the park go the route that Gold Striker did and put foam under all of the track to help reduce some of the sound that wooden trains cause?
 
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I would appreciate a compactish Euro-fighter in Ireland to replace EitA and a Rocky Mountain Coaster woodie in FHP... just my thoughts
 
I'm still not big on a woodie for BGW (I don't think it would ever be allowed by JCC), but a Eurofighter in Ireland would be AWESOME. They could still use the EitA building still, it would fit, it would be quiet, it would be DIFFERENT. I imagine they could even theme it pretty well, ala Mystery Mine, but that might be too much like Verbolten.
 
I've been trying convince my family to let me make one. "The homeowners Association will not like it!" they say. :p
 
This might be a long shot, but when you're actually walking around in the park in certain areas the skyline seems rather dull. I mean crossing the bridge out of Italy into Germany you get that signature view of almost all the "big boy" coasters all in the same general area. Anyways I always thought an accelerating coaster by Intamin would be nice. (I recall reading Zach saying something like if BGW were to install another launch it would have to be different from Verbolten) So here you go, Something not insanely tall but has a decent amount of height. Like Storm Runner at Hersheypark. Something that swoops around the natural terrain of the park and is practically hidden aside from a tophat (Which in my personal opinion would look great) Anyone have an idea where something this big could fit?

EDIT: Let us not forget the Drachen Fire location still hasn't been put to good use yet...
 
John said:
This might be a long shot, but when you're actually walking around in the park in certain areas the skyline seems rather dull. I mean crossing the bridge out of Italy into Germany you get that signature view of almost all the "big boy" coasters all in the same general area...
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And see, when I see all the coasters swooping and out of the skyline, I feel like things look cluttered and busy.

They can't please anyone!
 
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Have it start in FHP, and do a Immelman loop(like the ones on Griffon) over the San Marco Bridge! Think about it swooping over you as you cross the river! I will draw something up so you can see what I am talking about.
 
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