Ideal and Likely Volcano Replacement Ideas
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Be glad the majority of modern rides are installed with redundant systems.
Might not be the right thread, but I know I'd love to hear stories...
It might vary on how it falls back to corporate but I think it certainly falls back to corporate. I don't think for a second that corporate is dictating shortcuts or cheap ways of doing things but they are likely creating the environment where such a thing isn't limited but it thrives. My views on CF and maintenance have drastically fallen and some concerns have become even deeper. I think Valravn was the first big eyebrow raise for me and now TTD has really started bugging my gut so much as to think that even the Ohio Dept of Agriculture is involved. I don't think I'm at a point where I think things are extremely unsafe or anything but I have concerns. At the very least, all of the Intaminitis you see at cedar fair parks is probably largely the result of cedar fair. Hershey and Universal seem to keep their Intamins running quite well outside of teething issues (which is expected when you push the limits like Intamin does).... Hell, even Six Flags does a better job of keeping their Intamins running.
Is it fair to say TTD wasn't a fluke when the damage to the flagplate bolts was hidden and wouldn't have been detectable during daily inspections according to published reports (I'm too lazy to go find but believe were posted in the TTD thread)?
And you can't really say SF is perfect either considering the shitshow of rides falling apart up at Great Adventure including both the boats knocking out a guardrail on the log flume and the derailment of El Toro (which while wooden is an Intamin).
And you can't really say SF is perfect either considering the shitshow of rides falling apart up at Great Adventure including both the boats knocking out a guardrail on the log flume and the derailment of El Toro (which while wooden is an Intamin).
There were two different parts of that report. While you are correct with what you said, the dept of agriculture also stated later in the report that below-grade bolts were being used on the ride. Interestingly there is an assumption that the "part" that was used on Volcano incorrectly may have also been related to hardware such as bolts, etc (of course we don't have a report on that one). While the damage may not have been detectable there is certainly a good chance that the correct grade of bolt recommended by the manufacturer would have resisted the corrosion that formed.
I never said that SF was perfect..... I said they did a better job -- and I don't think that's saying much.
I would assume an analyst in finance calculated it‘s a better trade off to spend money keeping a higher uptime for revenue/guest satisfaction reasons than to optimize maintenance costs. While it may look dumb from a maintenance perspective, it probably makes sense from an overall company P&L perspective.
I'm familiar with what happened regarding TTD, but I'm curious what happened with Valravn that was a concern. I might have missed it on an earlier post.
It was years ago and the fact that people keep asking this question when I bring it up is exactly why it concerns me as much as it does. The PLC engaged the tires on the brake run and pushed it into the station and into the back of the train that was loading/unloading. This isn't so much something that I blame on CF directly but what really concerned me was the lengths they went to hide the fact that anything happened. To anyone who didn't see the few social media posts (including videos and pictures) of the incident happening it literally looked like they were just closing the ride for routine maintenance and worked eagerly to avoid any questions regarding the incident. Granted, parks don't like to let things get into public view but this was just to a whole new level of avoidance and really gave me the feeling that CF had something to hide.
It certainly does look dumb when one of your rides has duct tape holding a wiring connection in place between two cars on a certain giga coaster when that specific connector piece only costs $25 as a whole assembly and 45 minutes of labor to replace.
This is something that most independent parks wouldn't even let the public see..... even those that are struggling.
it was a physical piece that's supposed to be physically latched to connect but it was wrapped around multiple times with duct tape. Not even electrical tape, duct tape!
nothing, its gonna be a field forever, that is likely.
speaking of likely attraction additions, GIRRAFFE RACERS! it would be a dueling b&m giga that replaces intinmdator 305 (the ride sucks butt), what are your thoughts?
(side note pourin one out to my homie volcano, really miss waiting in line for two hours for a forty five second ride that broke down all the time like frfr so sad breh)
speaking of likely attraction additions, GIRRAFFE RACERS! it would be a dueling b&m giga that replaces intinmdator 305 (the ride sucks butt), what are your thoughts?
(side note pourin one out to my homie volcano, really miss waiting in line for two hours for a forty five second ride that broke down all the time like frfr so sad breh)
Anyone else wondering if S&S gave them a BOGO deal? Imagine if they bring a compressed air launch in and we get a new & improved Hypersonic but much longer than Maxx Force preferably. I am very intrigued by the axis idea as that just seems like a Kings Dominion move to me for some reason but not sure if Cedar Fair would be about that but Cedar Fairs predictability is a bit tougher than it used to be.
I've said this before and I'll say it again.... if I had to put money on a model that they'd be getting, it would be an Axis and this is exactly the reason why I'd feel safest with my money there. It's more so that the free spin popped up not very long after the wing coaster was allegedly scrapped. It makes me feel like S&S couldn't get the Axis in their timeframe but they could deliver a free spin so they worked out a twofer.
My gut tells me that CF wouldn’t be too up for a prototype coaster.
I thought that for a while.... but honestly, I don't know what CF is up to anymore. The only thing I know for certain is they still hate Intamin. I think there is potential that they realized they need to do something out of the norm with KD which is a reason why I think a prototype is possible. I know everyone points to the prototypes that they removed but the big difference of those were that CF didn't build them -- they inherited them. And honestly, Volcano wasn't nearly the nightmare that people make it out to be and, in hindsight, I'm sure they realize how impactful that ride was in their park.