What thread are you reading? There's no reference to Kings Island on this page at least, mostly discussions of the next big thing coming.
Ideal and Likely Volcano Replacement Ideas
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Sorry, by “thread” that kind of went off the rails, I meant this current subreddit discussion:
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At this point in time I don't believe any speculation about Volcano's replacement regardless of who they're saying they're hearing it from. This is about the same park that planned a 105 foot Wing Coaster to replace Volcano for crying out loud.
I personally hope it's something taller than 150 feet at least. It's wild when I remember of the 13 coasters in the park only 2 are above 150 feet. It's weird there's like 3 300 foot towers, a giant red 305 foot tall roller coaster, and then just Dominator like 50% of their height chillin up front. I love the KD skyline it's just fascinating with that setup at a glance. I do like how Tumbili looks where it is.
I have discovered never seen footage of Volcano's replacement testing.
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Lol just sent a screenshot of this to Sean (creator of this ride) to let him know his bid was accepted jk
I still feel like an Axis is a possibility.
I've also recently heard that CF now has some beef with B&M because of the Gatekeeper chain incident -- from what I've heard (not confirmed, so grain of salt), the chain breakage was determined to be the fault of CP maintenance and B&M didn't cover it.
I feel like CF has beef with everyone..... S&S had the skyshot tower thing (which is also equally ridiculous) but I think that's long enough ago that they may be forgetting about that and could embrace S&S..... Tumbili may be the first step -- it might also be part of a package deal they signed.
I've also recently heard that CF now has some beef with B&M because of the Gatekeeper chain incident -- from what I've heard (not confirmed, so grain of salt), the chain breakage was determined to be the fault of CP maintenance and B&M didn't cover it.
I feel like CF has beef with everyone..... S&S had the skyshot tower thing (which is also equally ridiculous) but I think that's long enough ago that they may be forgetting about that and could embrace S&S..... Tumbili may be the first step -- it might also be part of a package deal they signed.
Cedar Fair seems to have like perfect expectations or something or whoever makes decisions on that is like "bruh why these maintenance costs above the minimum expectation? NOT COOL BRO." That would be dumb if they were just out on B&M over like one little incident like that.
I’ve heard some similar stories from friends that work at Dorney Park. Cedar Fair kinda takes a “bare minimum” approach to maintaining anything (again hearing second hand). I’ve heard some additional things about Cedar Fair as a whole that it’s not shocking that they randomly seem to switch the “flavor of the month” when it comes to manufacturers.
CF has a bad habit of burning maintenance budgets on rides that are complete nightmares to maintain.
And contracting Rockwell Automation to get it running for half a week before it breaks for the rest of the month.
This was many years ago, but a tire blew at Antique cars and the maintenance guy was told to take a good tire + rim off a vehicle that was temporarily out of service (scheduled to be back in service within a few days) and swap it for the tire that blew so the functioning car would have a functioning tire. Despite there being a stockpile of spare tires in the warehouse.
This is really minor and probably just to save time at that point of the day of not having to take off and reseat a tire until they had more time to do so. Swapping out a rim/tire is a 10 minute job, whereas going to a warehouse and changing the tire completely is probably 30 minutes. If maintenance has other timely things to do at the moment, the swap makes sense.
Quite opposite really... the swap took much longer. Also, maintenance comes from the warehouse anytime they respond to a ride especially the auto shop since they only handle antique cars and the go karts as far as "in park" stuff goes. Also, while speaking with the foreman- time was not an issue. It was just a lazy and bad call from senior management. My point was to point to some of the decision making that the maintenance team makes to follow up with Gavin and b.mac's posts.
I think it's a little backwards from that... While your statement might actually be true I think a lot of the rides that are seen as complete nightmares to maintain are that way because of previous lack of proper maintenance.
Yup. I heard some bad things with the friend at Dorney with the cars ride of continual plugging of holes in the tire, lack of balancing, just resetting the steering wheel when it was out of alignment; then they spent about 5x the work to fix it in the offseason compared to doing it the right way in the first place.
It’s not that they don’t maintain (for those that think that), it’s that they do a lot of WD40/Duck Tape method rather than get to the root issue in the first place.
This may be a local or divisional issue, vice something CF senior management is actively dictating. Most likely is corporate or finance has some general policy in place that’s incentivizing unproductive short term maintenance and there isn’t enough collaboration between the ground level maintenance and corporate to put a more productive policy in place to reduce life cycle costs.
Volcano had one of the two hydraulics that lock down a restraint fail mid season, they just took one off the closed rows and ran it like that for the rest of the season.
When their maintenance budget is heavily limited to do proper maintenance and there's a bonus incentive every season for meeting uptime targets you'd be shocked at the stupid shit maintenance departments will do at amusement parks to keep the rides running.