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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

RocketChk said:
Those who don't have kids, do you think less of the parents who bring their kids?

Not if the kids are enjoying it and not messing it up for anyone else. My gripe comes when parents pull their kids through a house or scarezone that the kid obviously doesn't want to be in. I've walked behind and in front of multiple parents who literally drag their 4 or 5 year olds through the houses by the arm and tell the staff: "Don't scare him, he's 4". It ruins the experience for everyone.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
Not if the kids are enjoying it and not messing it up for anyone else. My gripe comes when parents pull their kids through a house or scarezone that the kid obviously doesn't want to be in. I've walked behind and in front of multiple parents who literally drag their 4 or 5 year olds through the houses by the arm and tell the staff: "Don't scare him, he's 4". It ruins the experience for everyone.

I agree with this. But again, there are just jerks out there. I don't like to be in those situations. I also don't like when a group of five 14 year old girls are around me in a maze screaming in my ear or running into me when they're overreacting to the scareactors. Nor do I like the 25 year old drunk guys who like to shout back in the scareactors faces or make idiotic comments to them.

If you took kids completely out of the HOS equation, there'd still be plenty of jackholes there to ruin your time. It's just the nature of people.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
RocketChk said:
Those who don't have kids, do you think less of the parents who bring their kids?

Not if the kids are enjoying it and not messing it up for anyone else. My gripe comes when parents pull their kids through a house or scarezone that the kid obviously doesn't want to be in. I've walked behind and in front of multiple parents who literally drag their 4 or 5 year olds through the houses by the arm and tell the staff: "Don't scare him, he's 4". It ruins the experience for everyone.

I can understand how that can ruin an experience, but what about the people who don't have someone to watch their kid and don't have many opportunities to have activities like HoS? I mean, hopefully they won't complain to guest services, but still, it can get a little frustrating for parents...
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

DaTrueBGWFan said:
I can understand how that can ruin an experience, but what about the people who don't have someone to watch their kid and don't have many opportunities to have activities like HoS?

You shouldn't involve your kids in stuff they can't handle. If that means you either don't go to HOS or can't go through the mazes then, too bad. That's what being a parent is all about. It'd be like taking your kids to a strip club and expecting the girls to keep their clothes on because your kids are there.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Shafor said:
Now you're going to get chastised by people on this board about how you're ruining everyone's time around you by "depriving" them of getting scared because the scareactors were being friendly to your kids. (No, I'm not joking).

BTW, I've never had any big issues with my kids either. My son (9) is much more frightened than my daughter (5). But he's hot and cold. And we basically just navigate around the scare zones the best we can. You really can "avoid" most of HOS while you're there, if you're familiar enough with the park. Oh and they LOVE the shows.

For the most part, I think there is a huge perception that people bring kids and then complain they got scared. Obviously you're going to get a handful of that stuff, but good grief, can you imagine to goofball complaints they deal with on a regular basis throughout the season. Just part of doing business.

They can fuss all they want to, it's not depriving anybody of anything. If this was HHN, again different story, already debated topic. Let 'em at me.

We are there twice a weekend, every weekend with them in tow, so maybe its just them used to it, I don't know. And I totally agree, there are ways around the scares. Except for that giant spider last year. That freaked my son out, but only because of the sound of the air pump being so loud. My kids also really enjoy the shows, except for the skeletons in MSR, which I find hilarious because every other kid in the world is loving it. Again, maybe my kids are just weird.

I actually worked at GS in the park (or Relations now, I guess) and it is true, you will hear everything. After one shift, you have enough to fill a book. Those people go through it, and it was one of my toughest interviews I have ever been on in my life, but they trained us well, and it really does take a certain type of person to keep on smiling.


Swiftman said:
RocketChk said:
Those who don't have kids, do you think less of the parents who bring their kids?

Not if the kids are enjoying it and not messing it up for anyone else. My gripe comes when parents pull their kids through a house or scarezone that the kid obviously doesn't want to be in. I've walked behind and in front of multiple parents who literally drag their 4 or 5 year olds through the houses by the arm and tell the staff: "Don't scare him, he's 4". It ruins the experience for everyone.

I agree here, because I have told my son every year that the second he feels like he wants to go home, we're out. I would never take my kids into a house, until I knew they could handle it, and I'm about 10 years away from that. This where I think the park needs to step in and put their foot down and enforce a strict, no person under 13 allowed at all in a house. In a house, no scareactor should have to modify their role. In the scarezones, I think it's all up to the scareactor. There have been times when a group of teenage girls have been around my stroller and the scaractor said 'f-it, I'm going for it,' and I've got no hard feelings.

Then again, one time I was behind a family in a house, mom, dad and two pre-teen kids and they had a great time. Very respectful through the whole house, screams and laughs all the way. After we excited the house they all laughed and seemed like they had a great time. Here's where I think it should be up to the parent.

DaTrueBGWFan said:
Swiftman said:
RocketChk said:
Those who don't have kids, do you think less of the parents who bring their kids?

Not if the kids are enjoying it and not messing it up for anyone else. My gripe comes when parents pull their kids through a house or scarezone that the kid obviously doesn't want to be in. I've walked behind and in front of multiple parents who literally drag their 4 or 5 year olds through the houses by the arm and tell the staff: "Don't scare him, he's 4". It ruins the experience for everyone.

I can understand how that can ruin an experience, but what about the people who don't have someone to watch their kid and don't have many opportunities to have activities like HoS? I mean, hopefully they won't complain to guest services, but still, it can get a little frustrating for parents...

Sorry for the double post, you guys are quick. This is, as a parent, another very good question and I wanted to bring it up. What if you don't have anybody to watch your kids? Should I have to miss out on one of my favorite things in the world because I'm a parent? Not at all, but if it came down to it, my husband and I would have to split up and go into the houses separately until they become of age to be by themselves at home while mom and dad have all the fun, or they are able to handle going into the mazes.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Good post. Yeah, we got stuck at the spiders a few times last year too.

My son was fascinated with the zip line, but yeah, the noise freaked him out too. (Swiftman was with us once, he can attest:))

My kids loved the skeletons in MSR. In fact, that's what they were for Halloween. We even have video of them dancing to Shake Your Groove Thing.

I talked in another post about being in favor of age restrictions on the houses. I'd actually like to see them do a progression, like 1 for all ages, 1 or 2 for teens and up, 1 or 2 for adults only.

My wife and I really don't care that much about the houses anyway. We usually get a babysitter twice for HOS and go by ourselves. We always got the QQ for the houses to avoid the lines ) That's plenty for us. Out of curiosity, anybody know if they offer "child swap" for the houses like they do the rides? That'd be good info to get out there for parents. May avoid some of the issues like Swift was talking about.

Quidnunc said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrybmB8ZbM

Is this for our HOS, or Tampa's? It doesn't say. If it's for ours, it looks amazing!

EDIT- I found on another posting of this video that it's for both parks. YAY!

That is awesome :D They play that music on the Italy bridge now. It's pretty creepy.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Quidnunc said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrybmB8ZbM

Is this for our HOS, or Tampa's? It doesn't say. If it's for ours, it looks amazing!

EDIT- I found on another posting of this video that it's for both parks. YAY!

It's for Tampa because the tagline is "Zombies Live Here" and that's the tagline they're using for their event. No scarezones, just hoards of roaming zombies.

Shafor said:
My wife and I really don't care that much about the houses anyway. We usually get a babysitter twice for HOS and go by ourselves. We always got the QQ for the houses to avoid the lines ) That's plenty for us. Out of curiosity, anybody know if they offer "child swap" for the houses like they do the rides? That'd be good info to get out there for parents. May avoid some of the issues like Swift was talking about.

See, exactly. Once I've been through a house once, I'm good. I love to go for the experience that surrounds the park.

Parent swap for the houses is a brilliant idea. And the age restrictions could work, but the pumpkin ratings never made sense to me. Why was one house a six and the other only a four? Shouldn't all the houses be at the same level and shouldn't all scareactors be expected to perform at a high level in all of them? And who's to say that to me, a vampire house is nothing (when it's rated six pumpkins) and a clown house, to me personally, should be rated 15 pumpkins (when it's only a four. Clowns are the worst. I'm gonna have to act tough for my son this year, lol). Different fears for different people.

I must say I really appreciated the empty Pompeii to take my son through last year to introduce him to HOS houses. I let him have some fun and feel grownup, and I didn't have to worry. I wish they would do that with all of them.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Shafor said:
I agree with this. But again, there are just jerks out there. I don't like to be in those situations. I also don't like when a group of five 14 year old girls are around me in a maze screaming in my ear or running into me when they're overreacting to the scareactors. Nor do I like the 25 year old drunk guys who like to shout back in the scareactors faces or make idiotic comments to them.

If you took kids completely out of the HOS equation, there'd still be plenty of jackholes there to ruin your time. It's just the nature of people.

I have to deal with this about every other haunted house I go through. They make your time miserable. I would rather have a bunch of kids going through than people purposely overreacting about a guy in a mask.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Alpenscoot said:
I have to deal with this about every other haunted house I go through. They make your time miserable. I would rather have a bunch of kids going through than people purposely overreacting about a guy in a mask.

See, though, if you don't psych yourself up, make yourself a little too scared for what's actually going on, what fun will you have? If you just "keep it real" in there, you shouldn't be scared at all. There's nothing dangerous in the house, after all, right? It's just an act with some teenagers in face paint.

When I go, I make myself get scared. Would that be considered 'overreacting'?
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

I think there's a difference between being "into it" vs. purposefully trying to draw attention to yourself. If you are running 6 feet backwards and keep crashing into the line of people behind you, or are getting in the scareactors faces and screaming "boo" at the top of you lungs, then yes, you are overreacting.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

RocketChk said:
Quidnunc said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrybmB8ZbM

Is this for our HOS, or Tampa's? It doesn't say. If it's for ours, it looks amazing!

EDIT- I found on another posting of this video that it's for both parks. YAY!

It's for Tampa because the tagline is "Zombies Live Here" and that's the tagline they're using for their event. No scarezones, just hoards of roaming zombies.

That's what I thought too when I saw where it said "Zombies Live Here", but I've seen on multiple postings of this video that it says this commercial is for both parks.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

How about this:

Varied age limits on houses: one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+
Security guards told to remove people who are obviously interrupting the flow in the house
Advertised child swap at all houses (sign at the front of the line & audio recording in line)
Actors told to use discretion in most scarezones
Intense scarezones have marked alternative routes- actors told to scare everyone
 
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
How about this:

Varied age limits on houses: one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+
Security guards told to remove people who are obviously interrupting the flow in the house
Advertised child swap at all houses (sign at the front of the line & audio recording in line)
Actors told to use discretion in most scarezones
Intense scarezones have marked alternative routes- actors told to scare everyone

Sounds perfect to me. See, there are ways to address these issues besides kicking kids out of the park at 6:00 ;)
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
How about this:

Varied age limits on houses: one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+
Security guards told to remove people who are obviously interrupting the flow in the house
Advertised child swap at all houses (sign at the front of the line & audio recording in line)
Actors told to use discretion in most scarezones
Intense scarezones have marked alternative routes- actors told to scare everyone


NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO!
im fourteen and i love the houses, i hate the semi-scary stuff Busch gardens give us, and if they have an age limit my life WOULD be ruined. Im just like you Irritated with the teens and young adults that yell in the scareactors face to act tuff, i go to busch gardens every year since i was 10, and went in the houses with no problem. And if i did get scared i would burried my face in my dad's back. The age limit would ruin alot.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Kiss_n_tell_102 said:
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO!
im fourteen and i love the houses

"one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+"

You would miss one house. Is that such a problem?

EDIT: Also, one of my sources just told me that the commercial is for both parks. The woman at the end will apparently play some kind of roll in at least one of the countries.
 
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
"one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+"

You would miss one house. Is that such a problem?

One of our members was around that age last year, Swift. She was perfectly fine with them and didn't cause a headache. I wouldn't generalize one age group as much as maturity level.

She knows who she is as do you more than likely.
 
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2011

Swiftman said:
Kiss_n_tell_102 said:
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO!
im fourteen and i love the houses

"one for everyone, three for 13+, and one for 18+"

You would miss one house. Is that such a problem?

EDIT: Also, one of my sources just told me that the commercial is for both parks. The woman at the end will apparently play some kind of roll in at least one of the countries.

yes, it would be .
 
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Yeah, there's really no way to quantify "maturity level." Age is all we got. There's also no way to card a 13 year old, so...

As for not being able to get into ONE house ruining your entire time, my suggestion would be to just not go at all then.
 
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