Germany Train Station

[Frontseatbill]

Re-grading the track bed will allow them to place the station where they want it and it will be less wear and tear on the trains themselves. But doing this will add some more cost into building the new train station, since they will need to re-grade the tracks between the bridge and just pass the new station site. But, I don't think the park wants the added expanse of this re-grading if they don't have too, that's why they picked that location shown in photo that was posted a while back.

The way the express train would work is, it wouldn't stop at the new station and only make longer stop at the Caribou station only to give the train ahead a chance to clear the next block, but still make the rest of the stops in between. But, on the busy days all the trains would make all the stops at every station, since it would tie up (slow down) the whole line and wouldn't make any since.

The Cpt makes a very good point why a express train wouldn't work and that was shows are done all over the park which I totally agree. But a express train can still serve it's propose if it's done correctly.

 

[Party Rocker]

Well if the park is already planning on the construction of a major project within the next year, adding a few extra thousand dollars is probably nothing their concerned about. And think, they spent so much on a coaster already. Money doesn't seem to be an issue with expansion, especially with Blackstone as the leader of expansion.

 

[FAL NR OX]

Another issue I just thought about was that not only would they have to regrade the track, they would also have to adjust multiple crossings that are along the hill

Here is why regrading would not work in the first place

 

[Party Rocker]

They can lower the track as much as needed and regrade, it just means the track by the station will be lower than it is now. IT can work if done right and proper. However, if a train station won't work, still expect a pathway or crossing of some sort.

 

[FAL NR OX]

I never said we wouldn't see a crossing, I just don"t expect them to level the entire railroad for one station... I would rather see them make the festa station better

 

[Party Rocker]

True the Festa station could use work, but I am sure they would find a way to make a German station or crossing. One or the other.

 

[FAL NR OX]

Ill bet my money on the crossing, not the station though

 

[Party Rocker]

What about another bridge out of Oktoberfest?

 

[b.mac]

For the amount of foot traffic that will likely be experienced in that area a bridge over the tracks sounds like a pretty good idea, especially since there's pprobably not going to be a stop where we hope. But in terms of cost-effectiveness just laying down concrete/asphault/ascrete and placing 4 railroad crossing stops is a much better idea and investment than investing in a bridge. The entire circuit of the railroad has 3 major guest crossings and about 5 or 6 employee crossings, so adding one more wouldn't hurt at all.

 

[Frontseatbill]

I agree with B-Mac. What we are all talking about, can be easily done by a railroad contractor. Since a railroad contractor does this all the time and can do this work less than a months time. This contractor will also do all the related work to the track, such as the regrading, grade crossings, but they won't do the station work like the concrete, fencing, and the electrical that we are talking about.

 

[Party Rocker]

What I meant is another bridge connecting Oktoberfest to some other area of the park. Remember, with all the new stuff going into Oktoberfest, there is bound to be tons of people and how will they get those people in and out quickly. Right now there are only 2 ways in and out of Oktoberfest.

 

[FAL NR OX]

I doubt we will see a NEW bridge, but maybe a path addition along the train trestle from Festa to Oktoberfest... IDk, they would have to find some interesting things to put along it though to keep it from just being a path

 

[Parkgoer]

Regrading talk makes me lol. From the end of the bridge all the way to Caribou would need to be graded. Too much capital for no direct return.

 

[Zachary]

Has anyone thought of possible modifications to the trains instead? I don't know the first thing about trains, but does anyone know if it would be possible/cost effective?

 

[Gavin]

There's also rerouting...

 

[mtpelepele]

So....if the grade is too steep to go uphill, why the heck couldn't they go 'round the other way?

 

[jman89]

So....if the grade is too steep to go uphill, why the heck couldn't they go 'round the other way?

While NASA spent millions developing a pen that would work in space, mtpelepele suggested using a pencil.

I don't think that is particularly simple either due to signaling, crossing gates, etc. Also, there could be a similar stretch of grade; I don't have my surveying results in front of me[/i]. I also don't think regrading is really a huge deal. If they have established the station to be important (hotel), then it's a not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. On the other hand, if it's simply because Oktoberfest has two major rides (Verbolten and DarKastle, probably not.

 

[Gavin]

I've attached contour maps of the area in question. The hill doesn't look too bad, its more of a very gradual incline.

All images are property of James City County, source: http://property.jccegov.com/parcelviewer/Search.aspx

 

[Parkgoer]

While NASA spent millions developing a pen that would work in space, mtpelepele suggested using a pencil.

Good, you can see the obvious, now read the technicals. What material was in pencil fillers in the late 60s? As you right, how would that material affect you in a zero-G environment as debris breaks off. Space and weight of even something so small was beyond crucial. Sharpening would have required just as much research as developing the pen and carrying a surplus of pencils was not feasible. And without that research, several pens we use daily now would be nothing as they are. Facts, use them.

 

[jman89]

While NASA spent millions developing a pen that would work in space, mtpelepele suggested using a pencil.

Good, you can see the obvious, now read the technicals. What material was in pencil fillers in the late 60s? As you right, how would that material affect you in a zero-G environment as debris breaks off. Space and weight of even something so small was beyond crucial. Sharpening would have required just as much research as developing the pen and carrying a surplus of pencils was not feasible. And without that research, several pens we use daily now would be nothing as they are. Facts, use them.

Did you just rebut a bad joke?

(PS to save millions developing a space sharpener: use mechanical pencils) (EDIT for Gavin [posted here to not add another OT post]: while gravity is used to load the next lead into the apparatus typically, once the lead is in the feeder, gravity is not necessary. To test, take a mechanical pencil, hold it upside down then click, it will feed more lead. One can load the next lead by pushing it backwards through the feeder while pressing the button leaving the feeder open; while absurd, it works!) And even then, this whole argument was silly on the basis of it being based on a stupid, debunked and ancient joke which when used, the joke is not the joke, but the using of said joke; a meta-joke if you will.