Thank goodness that's being directed. I daily have this conversation with my mom that our test numbers 'going up' might be a bit misleading due to test styles being combined (basically regardless of if you actively have it or not the antibody test gets lumped in as positive) along with the recent increase in targeted testing to areas that have more positives and increased tests for prisons. So I'm looking forward to seeing how the reporting different test positivity rates effects the view for some people.
COVID-19’s Impacts on BGW
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Thank goodness that's being directed. I daily have this conversation with my mom that our test numbers 'going up' might be a bit misleading due to test styles being combined (basically regardless of if you actively have it or not the antibody test gets lumped in as positive) along with the recent increase in targeted testing to areas that have more positives and increased tests for prisons. So I'm looking forward to seeing how the reporting different test positivity rates effects the view for some people.
My favorite "data-driven" thing the Governor did was open indoor malls before the beaches.
Genius.
Genius.
This sounds like a regurgitated, overtly-political, anti-Northam talking point from a Facebook page to me, but I’ll bite.
Malls: Businesses
Beaches: Purely Recreational
Malls: Privately Owned and Operated
Beaches: City-Managed
Malls: Not Particularly Crowded in Spring/Summer
Beaches: Packed in the Spring/Summer
Malls: Local Audience
Beaches: Regional & Tourist Audience
So, beaches have limited direct economic impact, require municipal resources to run, are packed this time of year, and draw tourists from out of the area. In contrast, malls and stores in malls employee a ton of people, can implement capacity limits, enhanced cleaning procedures, etc. like any other private business, won’t redirect local resources to manage, very rarely get crowded enough to not allow for social distancing, and won’t draw in people from out of the area.
I’m not even saying whether I think one should have been opened sooner or later than the other, but you coming in here all self-righteous-like and asserting that it was a radically out-of-line decision is just cringy. There are REALLY compelling arguments for opening malls before beaches. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning, but asserting that there isn’t a rational justification (what your post seems to suggest) is just wrong.
PS: This conversation belongs in the Politics thread. If it continues, I’ll split all of this off and move it over there.
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We can take it over there if you'd like.
1) The only thing "cringy" is trying to justify the line of thinking of "you can go into a mall but you can't sit on a beach in a chair" and his reason behind it was that people would use the same handrails at the beach lol.
2) I didn't suggest anything that you are talking about. You just attributed a WHOLEEEE lot of stuff to my post that wasn't there. In fact, my post was like 10 words and suggested barely anything except it was stupid that malls opened before beaches.
Zachary gave fairly straight forward reasoning for why your '10 word post'
I don't want to dive too deep into a discussion meant for the political thread or the Corona Virus thread; both of which are a better spot for a generic political/virus-related post and not so much for a thread about BGW in specific.
I think you a missing the logical aspect of reopening businesses on the whole. While it may superficially seem like the better idea to reopen beaches prior to an indoor establishment, I have to agree with @Zachary and his points.
The must substantial point is that malls tend to have better crowd control and sanitation specs. They have limited entry and exit areas that can be staffed by existing employees to reduce capacity easily. They also have solid ground which can be used to add social distancing markers. Signage can be hung or placed virtually everywhere. Hand sanitizer stations are also able to easily be installed throughout the building. Not to mention, malls have an entire crew of custodial employees who can quickly or more regularly respond to sanitize and clean areas.
In contrast, beaches tend to have essentially large and uncontrollable entry and exit points and therefore reducing capacity is not really plausible. There are also no employees that could be staffed at those points to control capacity. You can't easily add any type of markers or signage for social distancing unless it is something temporary that people will inevitably move. There is also no regular custodial crew maintaining the beaches. If some animal or yourself were to take a crap on the beach, there is no one to really clean that up quick and fast.
So in my opinion, those reasons alone make beaches a difficult thing to slowly reopen in phases.
The web site daily calendar has moved the potential opening day from the 13th to the 25th
i’m sure phase 3 will include guidelines to reopen major tourist attractions
Curious to see how well this works, especially for those with Platinum or legacy Premier memberships that might be interested in visiting...
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