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Re: RE: Christmas Town 2013

Joe said:
...and Dig It Up is about museum exhibits coming to life (Night at the Museum-like). Night Beats is supposed to be about a club for vampires and Ulrich's dealing with his soon-to-be-afterwife. And I thought Deck the Halls was basically supposed to be an old-fashioned Christmas party that comes to life.

Anyway, if I may ask, does anybody know what kind of crowds should be expected for the day after Christmas? We're trying to go as close to Christmas as possible, since it looks like we'll be visiting CT after Christmas and want to keep as much of that Christmas spirit as possible. It just isn't the same when the same when all the employees are wishing you a happy New Year. :-/

People are confusing plot and story. Every show has a plot whether it tells a narrative story or not.
 
The park is rolling out a new buy three and a fourth free for Christmas Town tickets deal. Just some advice for passholders, if you plan on going one time only and haven't bought tickets yet, this deal is not that sweet. Use your pass holder tickets instead and save even more money.
 
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I'm taking practically all my family on the 23rd so it might be pretty packed.:p

But how busy is it usually on the 23rd?
 
There's something that I've never quite liked about Deck The Halls after the stage change last year. When the lift stage was there, there was a lot more close up performing on the floor, a beautiful centerpiece(the Christmas tree), a lot more Christmas Trees, and not as cheesy. Now it's just a stage with a fake fireplace, no more, no less.

Last year I went to see it, and I just felt like I was listening to music, no more, no less. There is a reason all these other "story-less" shows are so good, it's because they have a variety of entertainment. Look at This Is Oktoberfest!(the parks legacy show) it really doesn't have a story, but people still love it because it has a variety of entertainment. You get to see dancing, listen to music, and best of all the wonderful guest interaction.

Deck The Halls, just really doesn't entertain me anymore, which is disappointing, because it used to be a fantastic show. That's all I have on it. Also, a show can have a story line and still be horrible(**all heads turn to look at Entwined**).
 
The 23rd should be Ok as far as crowds as the 24th. The day after Christmas is pretty packed from what I recall. Weather is also a factor (as always).

Just a new update on Deck the Halls fireplace. It is now automated. The performers no longer have to move it themselves. Yay for progress and the people or person behind making the show easier for the performers!
 
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I'd noticed when we were there the Sunday after Thanksgiving that it was turning half turns, then full turns, after the show. Like it was being tested or realigned, not sure.

I went to Christmastown the day after Christmas in 2011. Not making that mistake again. It was a Monday but it was crazy.
 
Hey guys. I've been busy for the last couple months and haven't had time to get to CT or check in on the site (married then a new job outside of HR). I'm sure there's something in this thread but can someone point me to a rundown of France/Aquitaine and the 'sparkling' that Scott promised? Just curious how that went over.
 
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Essentially, all panic was not really needed, the area turned out to be very well done. It just mainly includes garland around the edge of the buildings along with twelve large tinsel like trees throughout the village and one very large one that has a light show similar to the one in Holiday Hills but the only song being the 12 Days of Christmas.
 
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Hi Pandora, congrats on getting married! Woot!

I have written a review of Christmas Town 2013 with a brief overview of Aquitaine. Here is the link:

http://bgwmemories.com/2013/12/02/tis-the-season-to-be-jolly-christmas-town-2013/
 
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It's good. The front bit of Aquitaine is fabulous- everything past the first breezeway feels a bit unfinished and lackluster. It's definitely no Holiday Hills, but it's an improvement over what we've seen in Aquitaine during Christmas Town previously. Does it make up for the complete lack of iteration around the other areas of the event? Definitely not, but it's certainly not a downgrade either.

Party Rocker said:
Essentially, all panic was not really needed, the area turned out to be very well done.

I don't know/think it was intentional, but, to be honest, this quote of your's has a very demeaning tone to it. Please don't try to paint the community as some sort of hypercondriac hate-group. Most people agreed from the beginning that Aquitaine would likely be just fine because sparkles work for CT (I know this because I just now went back and read the posts in this thread around the time Scott said those famous words).
 
If there was any panic at all it was influenced by PR, because he essentially told us that everything was going to be Garland, and had a very panicked tone to his posts. We weren't all that worried about it, he seemed to be the one all uncertain, and panicked.

Proof:
Party Rocker said:
One word for France => TINSEL. It is everywhere. From what I'm told, there are some interesting aspects. The large tree that now sits made out of silver tinsel where the Aquitaine Village Band used to play is wired up to be very similar to O Tannenbaum, a miniature light show goes off every so often. Als the theme of the area is the 12 Days of Christmas as mentioned previously. Silver tinsel people. Let the complaints begin.

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Nic said:
Really, this doesn't speak "Europe" to me at all. But I think my cats would like it.


Ice storms are beautiful. Tinsel isn't.



Party Rocker said:
No I mean silver tinsel everywhere. Like everywhere. Not just a nice strand of garland, but everywhere.
 
ToddF said:
So, what can you expect for this CT season? My prediction is that the price will continue to drop as the season progresses. I expect BGW knows that there is an attendance spike at the beginning and at the end of the season, with a dip in the middle. That dip represents money left on the table. The smart thing to do is to offer steep discounts targeted for those dates, to get people through the gates who would not attend at the original high prices. Even if the price was trivial (say $5), and those people are getting in for far less than those who paid full price, food and merch revenue goes up on those days.

As predicted:
 

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Imaginique said:
I'd noticed when we were there the Sunday after Thanksgiving that it was turning half turns, then full turns, after the show. Like it was being tested or realigned, not sure.

The fireplace has lights, which require electrical power. There are a couple ways to transmit power through a rotating joint, like the pivot around which the fireplace turns. The first is to use a slip ring. This is something like your headphone jack. It has wipers that allow electrical signal transmission even when the center is rotated infinitely. The trouble with slip rings is that ones rated for transmitting any significant power are expensive. (They also eventually wear out.) The cheap way is just to run cables up through the joint. With this method, the number of turns is limited before you need to reverse and untwist the cables.

If you notice, on the side of the stage opposite the food, there is a control station for the fireplace. During shows, an operator runs the fireplace. This station also has a video monitor displaying the picture from a camera hanging directly above the fireplace, looking down. For a unique view of the show, you can sit by the operator and watch the show from above. I've got a video clip at home I can post later. After the show, the operator runs the fireplace backward the right number of turns to untwist the cables that power the fireplace lights and fire effect.
 
I just received an email from BG offering Christmas Town passholders up to 6 single-day tickets for guests at 50% off. That's $15pp.

My wife and I both have a CT pass, so we can bring 12 guests, which we were going to be doing anyway...
 
Matthew said:
If there was any panic at all it was influenced by PR, because he essentially told us that everything was going to be Garland, and had a very panicked tone to his posts. We weren't all that worried about it, he seemed to be the one all uncertain, and panicked.

Proof:
Party Rocker said:
One word for France => TINSEL. It is everywhere. From what I'm told, there are some interesting aspects. The large tree that now sits made out of silver tinsel where the Aquitaine Village Band used to play is wired up to be very similar to O Tannenbaum, a miniature light show goes off every so often. Als the theme of the area is the 12 Days of Christmas as mentioned previously. Silver tinsel people. Let the complaints begin.

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Nic said:
Really, this doesn't speak "Europe" to me at all. But I think my cats would like it.


Ice storms are beautiful. Tinsel isn't.



Party Rocker said:
No I mean silver tinsel everywhere. Like everywhere. Not just a nice strand of garland, but everywhere.



Hey! Give me some credit: I recanted the not Europe comment, after I looked it up and discovered that France was the world leader in producing tinsel. I think my initial reaction, however, was reasonable. Tinsel can be done very badly. As is turns out, it looks lovely.
 
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ToddF said:
ToddF said:
So, what can you expect for this CT season? My prediction is that the price will continue to drop as the season progresses. I expect BGW knows that there is an attendance spike at the beginning and at the end of the season, with a dip in the middle. That dip represents money left on the table. The smart thing to do is to offer steep discounts targeted for those dates, to get people through the gates who would not attend at the original high prices. Even if the price was trivial (say $5), and those people are getting in for far less than those who paid full price, food and merch revenue goes up on those days.

As predicted:

So...trying to understand.

My husband and I have the Christmas Town pass. My daughter doesn't, but she has a regular Platinum pass.

So, it would be cheaper to buy her CT ticket with this offer, than using her Platinum discount?

Does that seem odd to anyone else. If this had been an incentive a few weeks ago, it might have been a clever way to sell more CT passes. Now it just looks unfair to Platinum pass holders.
 
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