We went to the park today and it wasn’t any busier (or hardly any busier) than with the 1000 person capacity. BGW may be able to price high on some popular nights, but there may not be the demand for any other days at their current pricing. $40 base prices is really pushing it for the offering when $25 or $30 is probably more in line with the market and could at least fill the park.And basically the park's argument would be that there will be more than enough of your wealthy one-time visitors/members who will fill the slots without those people, and if the price pushes more of those people to graduate from "once a year at Christmas" to "maybe we can go next summer too" members, that's a win for the park. With limited capacity, a lost customer doesn't really have the impact it would otherwise.
The little live stages are a nice touch. I feel those should be permanent. The park really needs more mini areas with live performances
We went to the park today and it wasn’t any busier (or hardly any busier) than with the 1000 person capacity. BGW may be able to price high on some popular nights, but there may not be the demand for any other days at their current pricing. $40 base prices is really pushing it for the offering when $25 or $30 is probably more in line with the market and could at least fill the park.
The little live stages are a nice touch. I feel those should be permanent. The park really needs more mini areas with live performances
Something that I've found really interesting in the progression of Christmas Town is how there once was an abundance of carolers and instrumental groups throughout the park, but as the event went on, they slowly began to vanish from the line-up. As the event expanded to the whole park, it seems there was much more of an emphasis placed on having bigger theatrical shows rather than smaller, more intimate performances throughout the park. This transition from a few scattered about small pathway performances to an abundance of large scale productions make it seem like the park values putting more budget into larger shows rather than pathway performances? This thinking does make some sense to a degree as these monster capacity eating shows usually require huge casts and probably have a much larger ROI than paying a few pathway perfomances throughout the park when the same performers could just be in an actual show instead. It would also be much more enticing to visit the park for CT from a guest perspective when they're advertising that have a new "big budget" show, versus a few pathway performers that wouldn't event be worthy of a mention on the map.Totally agree with this. I think the abundance of small street performances throughout the park is one of the biggest edges that Winterfest has over Christmas Town, so I'd love to see this change continue in future seasons. Just a musician here or there really makes the park feel more alive and really makes the festivities more immersive.
Something that I've found really interesting in the progression of Christmas Town is how there once was an abundance of carolers and instrumental groups throughout the park, but as the event went on, they slowly began to vanish from the line-up. Once the event expanded to the whole park, it seems there was much more of an emphasis placed on having bigger theatrical shows rather than smaller, more intimate performances throughout the park. This transition from a few scattered about small pathway performances to an abundance of large scale productions make it seem like the park values putting more budget into larger shows rather than pathway performances? This thinking does make some sense to a degree as these monster capacity eating shows usually require huge casts and probably have a much larger ROI than paying a few pathway perfomances throughout the park when they could just be in an actual show instead. It would also be much more enticing to visit the park for CT from a guest perspective when they're advertising that have a new "big budget" show, versus a few pathway performers that wouldn't event be mentioned on the map.
Although, I definitely agree without them the park loses some of it's charm and warmth and that they still should try and expand in this aspect of entrainment, as Winterfest is currently wiping the floor with BGW in that regard.
OK, did anyone attend the 5-10 PM event on Saturday evening? People in the BG FB groups kept talking about crowds being bigger, people not social distancing, etc. We have reservations for this coming Sat evening but now I'm nervous!
NEW experiences added for 10am-3pm daytime sessions (Nov. 21-29)!
-Griffon
-Gingerbread Meet & Greet
-Holiday Treat Trail
-Find Jingle, the Surprise Elf
The morning session we attended was rather sparsely attended. While these are nice additions, I'm not sure they'll move the needle much in terms of ticket sales. The ticket prices are just too high, particularly for the daytime event, and waiting around two hours to see lights in the evening really limits the potential guest pool.This is really interesting: they must have realized that the morning sessions weren't drawing the level of reservations/ticket purchases due to the lack of lights. I have a reservation for Saturday that I was considering skipping, but I'll probably go and ride Griffon now.
I'm scared to find out what a "Surprise Elf" is.
Anyways, just my two cents, and yes, I am still saddened that I can’t complete the Gingerbread Scavenger Hunt.
While these are nice additions, I'm not sure they'll move the needle much in terms of ticket sales. The ticket prices are just too high, particularly for the daytime event, and waiting around two hours to see lights in the evening really limits the potential guest pool.
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