Verbolten (Project Announcement Fall 2011 Through Opening Discussion August 2012)
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Just curious are the brakes on Verbolten similar to the brakes on Mach Tower, like how they function and such?
Just curious are the brakes on Verbolten similar to the brakes on Mach Tower, like how they function and such?
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From the pictures just released it looks like the braking is similar to I305 but they are also by from it looks on having friction brakes which are going to be used more on getting the train the stop than just slowing it down. If this ride ever gets trim brakes I.E. drop over the Rhine we will see the Magnetic fins used to trim it and not the friction brakes like BBW had. Magnetic brakes are also a lot quieter than friction brakes.
From the pictures just released it looks like the braking is similar to I305 but they are also by from it looks on having friction brakes which are going to be used more on getting the train the stop than just slowing it down. If this ride ever gets trim brakes I.E. drop over the Rhine we will see the Magnetic fins used to trim it and not the friction brakes like BBW had. Magnetic brakes are also a lot quieter than friction brakes.
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They are similar to Mach Tower, but a little different and this is why.
The difference is the why the "north/south" poles of the permanent magnets are arranged, which is "north" faces "south" and so on, which gives you the breaking force.
Here's a way to give you the idea of this force is to try to move a magnet across a metal surface and try to keep off this surface by 1/6 of an inch. The permanent magnet wants to grab the metal. The only difference between the on your refrigerator is, they use more powerful magnets and use 1/4 of an inch spacing.
They are similar to Mach Tower, but a little different and this is why.
The difference is the why the "north/south" poles of the permanent magnets are arranged, which is "north" faces "south" and so on, which gives you the breaking force.
Here's a way to give you the idea of this force is to try to move a magnet across a metal surface and try to keep off this surface by 1/6 of an inch. The permanent magnet wants to grab the metal. The only difference between the on your refrigerator is, they use more powerful magnets and use 1/4 of an inch spacing.
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Yup. In the back you can see the white LSMs, then a fin (friction) brake, then the drive tires. The fins are needed here by the station and at any blocks to completely stop the train since magnets only slow it. Curious that they are using a drive tire instead of a squeeze tire. Drive tires are less reliable during rainy conditions (they slip) and can cause more overshoots. Battering Ram is run by a drive tire and often shuts down during the rain once it starts to slip across the tire.
Yup. In the back you can see the white LSMs, then a fin (friction) brake, then the drive tires. The fins are needed here by the station and at any blocks to completely stop the train since magnets only slow it. Curious that they are using a drive tire instead of a squeeze tire. Drive tires are less reliable during rainy conditions (they slip) and can cause more overshoots. Battering Ram is run by a drive tire and often shuts down during the rain once it starts to slip across the tire.
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Yeah, I heard magnetic brakes and I instantly thought of Mach Tower and it's braking system. I can understand the difference. So the magnetic brakes don't actually stop it? So what does stop it?
Frontseatbill said:
Yeah, I heard magnetic brakes and I instantly thought of Mach Tower and it's braking system. I can understand the difference. So the magnetic brakes don't actually stop it? So what does stop it?
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The magnetic breaks are designed to stop and slow you down. The fins shown in that picture are what slows you down to almost a complete stop then the fins will drop by pneumatic (air) when train has slowed down enough and than the friction tires will turn on.
I will answer this part for you guys..."Why are they using friction over squeeze tires? There is no place under the train to mount the fins for the squeeze tires to grab. They using the same setup as on Maverick at Cedar Point or the new coaster at BGT for stopping, moving the trains in and out of the station and launching the trains.
The magnetic breaks are designed to stop and slow you down. The fins shown in that picture are what slows you down to almost a complete stop then the fins will drop by pneumatic (air) when train has slowed down enough and than the friction tires will turn on.
I will answer this part for you guys..."Why are they using friction over squeeze tires? There is no place under the train to mount the fins for the squeeze tires to grab. They using the same setup as on Maverick at Cedar Point or the new coaster at BGT for stopping, moving the trains in and out of the station and launching the trains.
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http://www.wvec.com/news/Busch-Gardens-has-a-new-ride-138267144.html
WVEC in Norfolk aired a story about Verbolten on their 6 pm newscast tonight - they have a look inside the event house.
http://www.wvec.com/news/Busch-Gardens-has-a-new-ride-138267144.html
WVEC in Norfolk aired a story about Verbolten on their 6 pm newscast tonight - they have a look inside the event house.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet pictured is 2 of the train sets in the.employee parking lot the forward one is green and the rear one is blue in color under the plastic.
I must give credit to my good friend GHOST for getting me these pic's for me Thank You
Not sure if this has been posted yet pictured is 2 of the train sets in the.employee parking lot the forward one is green and the rear one is blue in color under the plastic.
BGW know it all said:
I must give credit to my good friend GHOST for getting me these pic's for me Thank You
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when I blow the pics up it looks like 2 rows per car for a total of 12 people per train
Schotcher said:
when I blow the pics up it looks like 2 rows per car for a total of 12 people per train
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I think that may just be the cars packed really close together and the gap being distorted by the plastic. The curve from the bridge into the drop looks pretty tight, I doubt 3-row cars could take that. Plus, Polar X-Plorer's (the same model) concept art showed single row trains, and the vertical drop testing footage showed normal elevated seating trains, so I bet that's what we'll see. I could be wrong, though.
That being said, how do we think the trains will be themed? Like what cars and colors will they be? I'm pretty sure we'll see a red Porsche and some sort of Beetle, but what other kinds of cars will we see? And what colors will they be? Red, green, blue, and yellow are pretty obvious, but what about a fifth color? I thought there were five trains, sorry if I'm wrong.
I think that may just be the cars packed really close together and the gap being distorted by the plastic. The curve from the bridge into the drop looks pretty tight, I doubt 3-row cars could take that. Plus, Polar X-Plorer's (the same model) concept art showed single row trains, and the vertical drop testing footage showed normal elevated seating trains, so I bet that's what we'll see. I could be wrong, though.
That being said, how do we think the trains will be themed? Like what cars and colors will they be? I'm pretty sure we'll see a red Porsche and some sort of Beetle, but what other kinds of cars will we see? And what colors will they be? Red, green, blue, and yellow are pretty obvious, but what about a fifth color? I thought there were five trains, sorry if I'm wrong.
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I believe there are two seat a row and there are 8 rows on each car to allow 16 passengers all together, or at least that is how I understand it.
Color-wise we will see the primary colors, the obvious red, green, blue, and yellow, but as for a fifth color, it could be purple, pink, orange, grey/silver, black, white. The most reasonable ones would probably be orange, black, or grey/silver. Any one agree?
Style-wise I think we will be seeing a wide selection of the older classy sports cars style. I doubt we will see a Lamborghini or Ferrari, but maybe some more older German sports car style things. Not too old, but a classy old, you know.
I believe there are two seat a row and there are 8 rows on each car to allow 16 passengers all together, or at least that is how I understand it.
Color-wise we will see the primary colors, the obvious red, green, blue, and yellow, but as for a fifth color, it could be purple, pink, orange, grey/silver, black, white. The most reasonable ones would probably be orange, black, or grey/silver. Any one agree?
Style-wise I think we will be seeing a wide selection of the older classy sports cars style. I doubt we will see a Lamborghini or Ferrari, but maybe some more older German sports car style things. Not too old, but a classy old, you know.
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Yep, he has it. The whole train is themed to a single car.
Party Rocker said:
Yep, he has it. The whole train is themed to a single car.
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