Verbolten (Project Announcement Fall 2011 Through Opening Discussion August 2012)

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So after seeing all the pics and videos, which particular detail stands out the most to you guys (especially you, Vaughn, since you were on the tour, and whoever else went). For me, it was the little detail about the helix being banked in such a way as to produce half a lateral G while your going thru it. That will really give the ride an "out of control" feel to it.

How bout you guys (and gals)?

Edit: Oh yea one more interesting tidbit that I must have forgotten from the leaked plans: As you enter the event building, that tunnel will extend deep into the building, giving you a claustrophobic feeling.
 
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What stands out most to me is the trains were hidden during the tour. I think if your going to have a hard hat tour and show people everything, show people everything and show them the trains too.
 
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^I guess someone didn't watch the BTT video... Larry clearly explains why he is keeping some things under raps

yaytez said:
Chris1989 said:
Im so sorry it so long was trying to get everything... what do you expect to hold a Camera that long ?
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That's why they make video editing software.
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That's why they make tripods
 
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Party Rocker said:
As for the tour, this coaster is not as complicated as you may think. You act as if the electrician is going to do a bad job and have jumbles of wire just laying around or the themeing is just going to be thrown around. Things will probably be neat and organized. Plus, I am sure they have designated paths/areas where people can travel without messing things up. I'm pretty sure that path to/from the event building during the tour has a purpose other than the tour. Liability is an issue but it is just as big an issue going to the top of Griffon.
In case you were not aware, EVERY ride goes through daily morning testing every morning. They don't just start it up and say its good. They go through and test every ride to see if it works properly. Verbolten should be no different.
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A. Did you not see the event building pics? You could barely see the track WITH the lights on. Even with wires organized, you can still trip on them.

B. With A. being said, it's an added liability, from the liabilty of "Does this person cause hazard to him/herself or anyone else?" WITH "Don't trip and break your face on the hard cement floors."

C. Are you really comparing the complexity of Verbolten to say Apollo's Chariot or Griffon?
 
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Schotcher said:
Party Rocker said:
As for the tour, this coaster is not as complicated as you may think. You act as if the electrician is going to do a bad job and have jumbles of wire just laying around or the themeing is just going to be thrown around. Things will probably be neat and organized. Plus, I am sure they have designated paths/areas where people can travel without messing things up. I'm pretty sure that path to/from the event building during the tour has a purpose other than the tour. Liability is an issue but it is just as big an issue going to the top of Griffon.
In case you were not aware, EVERY ride goes through daily morning testing every morning. They don't just start it up and say its good. They go through and test every ride to see if it works properly. Verbolten should be no different.
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A. Did you not see the event building pics? You could barely see the track WITH the lights on. Even with wires organized, you can still trip on them.

B. With A. being said, it's an added liability, from the liabilty of "Does this person cause hazard to him/herself or anyone else?" WITH "Don't trip and break your face on the hard cement floors."

C. Are you really comparing the complexity of Verbolten to say Apollo's Chariot or Griffon?
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A. Wires shouldn't be strung across the floor, they would probably be hanging from the ceiling or on the walls to their needed places, but should be hanging really low across a maintenance path or across the floor. That would be hazardous to anyone. They take precautions and keep paths like those clear of clutter.

B. With A. said, you honestly think someone is just gong to trip over some wire that happen to be laying on a floor? Wires don't just lay on the floor. They have places to be and the floor is not one of them. The liability is equal to or less than that of Griffon. You don't think there is a liability someone may trip and fall 205 feet?

C. I was comparing the LIABILITY not the rides. They rides are different, liability is what changes.

BTW, I did see the video and understand why they kept them covered. Does that mean I can't be disappointed and point it out as different and unexpected. After all this is a Hard Hat Tour. My expectations were them giving out most of all the info about the ride and show you everything, not well here is what it all looks like except for the this, and this, and everything else. It was almost more secretive than informational.
 
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Trip and fall 205ft...? Something tells me you haven't been on the coaster tour because that's damn near impossible.
 
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PzP said:
http://www.wvec.com/video/daybook/13News-Daybook-Get-ready-to-scream-141165573.html

I feel dumber watching it.

AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
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Well Larry Giles did they that yesterday. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that video was completely correct in everything they said.
 
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Party Rocker said:
I actually didn't notice that at Griffon. It just looks like a large space off to the side for overflow, but it really looks like you just walk straight into the queue building.
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Well, like I said, just a little bit. I haven't been to Busch Gardens since Griffon's opening, so I was remembering there being more of it then there actually was but this is what I was referencing:

http://coasterbuzz.com/CoasterPhoto.ashx?id=3851

That little bit of twisted path before you enter the building.
 
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Swiftman said:
Trip and fall 205ft...? Something tells me you haven't been on the coaster tour because that's damn near impossible.
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That is my point. If it is near impossible to trip and fall from the top of Griffon, chances are it is impossible to trip and fall in the event building. Mainly because every inch of access space on any coaster is completely safe (depending on when you are standing there).

Thanks Skippy, I love the angle of that photo, it showed me something I didn't notice before too. However, that looks like a failed attempt compared to DarKastle and Verbolten's. I really like the smaller, narrow paths better, it makes it a tad easier to keep the line somewhat single file compared to ropes or chains on a wide area.
 
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James said:
Well Larry Giles did they that yesterday. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that video was completely correct in everything they said.
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I'm not disputing that, I think the way they said it was....weird.
 
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Swiftman said:
Trip and fall 205ft...? Something tells me you haven't been on the coaster tour because that's damn near impossible.
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Party Rocker said:
That is my point. If it is near impossible to trip and fall from the top of Griffon, chances are it is impossible to trip and fall in the event building.
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You can easily trip anywhere, but falling OFF Griffon Vs. falling down and getting back up? And you can see fine with the sun, the pictures of the event building prove that even with the lights on, it's not that easy to see, not to mention the fact that there are supports EVERYWHERE. (Easy things to trip on, bump into, or trip and faceplant on) Even with hardhats, it wouldn't be too pretty. With coaster tours every day, bad things would be bound to happen. Even though people might not have tripped (I dunno if they did or not) during the HHT, doesn't mean it couldn't happen.
 
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Not sure if this was mentioned. Before you read my concern, know that I am VERY impressed with this addition to the park. As you leave the station and head toward the "turn" into the Black Forest, it seems like you can completely see the tunnel and show building. Now, I dont expect a Disney's Haunted Mansion kind of effect, but it looks like you can see the back of the faux stone wall entrance, then you end up in front of it. From the pictures, and I could be wrong because I wasnt there, it seems like it will be a fake stone entrance, with a green tube protruding from it that leads to a giant green show building. Any word on how the are going to hide these things? And yes, I know its winter, but a lot of BGW operating time is when there are no leaves on the trees.
 
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PzP said:
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Best part of that is that I have known that for years... ever since I rode Volcano for the first time and my dad told me about that

Just saw the 13 news segment on V... Way to use a boat load of footage that has been on Youtube for a while... but it still good
 
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