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Attraction Type
Roller Coaster
Attraction Status
Existing
Attraction Manufacturer
Zamperla
Attraction Model
Lightning
1. B&M could do it.

2. I cannot believe it underwent a ride refurb to replace the unreliable hydraulic launch with LSMs and is now inoperable due to the ride vehicles having stress fractures.
 
While everyone is busy worrying about Kingda Ka, I have some news for TT2. Recent developments suggest that Cedar Point has lost all confidence in Zamperla and have sought out a 3rd (or 4th?) party to fix the issues with the ride. There is a chance that this ride never opens. To be clear, I am not saying it won't. What I am saying is that there is no current timeline for the issues the ride has to be fixed.
I’m boutta genuinely start tweaking rn I swear to god
 
I'm not sure any A-list rides manufacturer would touch this with a 420ft pole at this point.
I mean, I wouldn't do it, I'm just saying they're on record of meeting any (many?) customer's request at any agreed-upon price. They're a highly experienced engineering firm, not a manufacturer of strictly off-the-shelf models.

I mentioned them in particular because they built the vehicles that Steel Dragon 2000 runs, and if the problem with TT2 was just the vehicles (which it seems like it's not!) I have to imagine they would be a viable market alternative.
 
I feel like SF/CF are in FO stage of FAFO in regards to this redo being an unmitigated disaster at this point and needing to drop KK.
 
Throwing my own take on the matter of TT2--if they're willing to potentially close Kingda Ka without any form of fanfare or noticement, then what sane mind would justify spending further costs of making TT2 passable enough to be operational for a bare moment of time?

Make it make sense, because I genuinely think TT2 is done and Sirens Curse is the apology (with TT2 then going down quietly)
 
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Throwing my own take on the matter of TT2--if they're willing to potentially close Kingda Ka without any form of fanfare or noticement, then what sane mind would justify spending further costs of making TT2 passable enough to be operational for a bare moment of time?

Make it make sense, because I genuinely think TT2 is done and Sirens Curse is the apology (with TT2 then going down quietly)
Well since CP already spent a crap load for TTD remake, probable makes sense to try to get it open. Plus I'd assume Zamperla is the one now eating any of the costs to get it open from their screw ups!
 
One theory is Siren's Curse is what was supposed to be their 2021 coaster. Either way, it's a good "apology" to not let TT2 keep messing with their schedule. As to TT2, it opens before Siren's or not at all.
 
It's why I said earlier that the first few years under Cedar Fair are going to be weird. Many of the actions that are going to happen in the next few months are based off of decisions not based off of sentimentality but based on costs and prior experiences. It's going to be a minute before everything settles and actual, concrete plans can be put into action. This isn't the first time Great Adventure has been in a slump, it won't be the second time, either.

I'm also going to add, in the face of the sentimentality of people trying to defend Kingda Ka here, that even before COVID Kingda Ka did not justify its costs of operations based on its total ridership and its uptime. Its impact on guests coming to the park is heavily overstated considering while I worked there it was barely scraping into the top 10 in overall ridership for Great Adventure, some years even losing to rides like Green Lantern, Dark Knight Coaster, ***Congo Rapids***, and ***__LOG FLUME__***.

Maybe if TT2 wasn't such a shitshow we wouldn't be having this discussion or at least a more positive and hopeful discussion, I don't know. But TT2 was a shitshow, still is a shitshow, and will probably continue to be a shitshow based on what I've been hearing.
What have you been hearing about TT2?
 
What have you been hearing about TT2?

Unmitigated disaster and the park / corporate has lost all hope in it. Internally they're pretty much banking on the ride not being ready for Opening Day 2025. It's what motivated corporate to pull the plug on Ka because they didn't want to deal with the operating costs and didn't want to risk another refurbishment / retrofit disaster happening.
 
Unmitigated disaster and the park / corporate has lost all hope in it. Internally they're pretty much banking on the ride not being ready for Opening Day 2025. It's what motivated corporate to pull the plug on Ka because they didn't want to deal with the operating costs and didn't want to risk another refurbishment / retrofit disaster happening.
"I don't eat seafood. I went to a long john silvers once and it was really bad"
 
Asking this with the element of hindsight: could TT2 perhaps by chance, bring over the former trains from Kingda Ka if the issue on TT2 is what Zamperla's trains were intended to do?

Doubt it'll happen--but it's a odd thought I've had over the course of the day.
 
Asking this with the element of hindsight: could TT2 perhaps by chance, bring over the former trains from Kingda Ka if the issue on TT2 is what Zamperla's trains were intended to do?

Doubt it'll happen--but it's an odd thought I've had over the course of the day.
They’d have to heavily modify the trains since Ka was a hydraulic launch system compared to the LSMs on TT2.
 
Imagine how desperate a park would have to be to try and reuse the old trains and retrofit them with lsms...
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