Attraction Top Thrill 2
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I doubt Temps will effect ride quality too much, as the tires of the ride are thin. (Maybe the plastic is normal thickness, and only looks thin because the road wheels are huge.) If you are worried about ride comfort, be more concerned about the twist in the drop over the vibrations on the ride. (There is a reason for all of the signs that warn against leaning over the side of the seat. I am glad they trust riders enough, and did not install over the shoulder straps.)
If the park is relying on signs for rider safety that's a recipe for failure. Between those who can't read the sign (e.g. foreign speakers), those too young to understand, or those who don't care what the sign says, there's going to be a failure incident that will force a change.
Well, I hate to say I saw this coming but I no longer believe any opinions about top thrill 2 due to this sheet of guidelines that was explicitly sent to all tt2 media day attendees.
Furthermore, the part on the incident feels VERY scummy.
Furthermore, the part on the incident feels VERY scummy.
That entire thing reads like “fuck your first amendment rights”
Jesus Christ. Are we positive that's real? It literally reads like parody.
Welcome to Cedar Point's Potemkin village...
Also, for the record, the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with this. This doc would have been sent to non-official-media, media day attendees (ACE members). Some influencers without their own invites likely would have been included with this pool (which definitely should be sounding alarm bells!), but larger influencers and outlets with their own invites would not have received this.
Ultimately, this is just an issue of Cedar Point asserting a crazy amount of control over the people around media at their event. It also highlights why skepticism around influencers especially is justified—I'm positive the VAST majority of influencers who attended under these directives have not disclosed the terms (or even that there were terms) of their attendance.
What Cedar Point has done here is perfectly legal, it's just also very scummy. Possibly it could be made more ethically sound if Cedar Fair expressly disclosed to media in attendance that the people around them were under a strict set behavioral and communication directives mandated by Cedar Point, but even then it's not good if you ask me. Just more evidence of an attempt to assert an alarming degree of influence and, in this case, indirect control, over journalists.
Welcome to Cedar Point's Potemkin village...
Also, for the record, the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with this. This doc would have been sent to non-official-media, media day attendees (ACE members). Some influencers without their own invites likely would have been included with this pool (which definitely should be sounding alarm bells!), but larger influencers and outlets with their own invites would not have received this.
Ultimately, this is just an issue of Cedar Point asserting a crazy amount of control over the people around media at their event. It also highlights why skepticism around influencers especially is justified—I'm positive the VAST majority of influencers who attended under these directives have not disclosed the terms (or even that there were terms) of their attendance.
What Cedar Point has done here is perfectly legal, it's just also very scummy. Possibly it could be made more ethically sound if Cedar Fair expressly disclosed to media in attendance that the people around them were under a strict set behavioral and communication directives mandated by Cedar Point, but even then it's not good if you ask me. Just more evidence of an attempt to assert an alarming degree of influence and, in this case, indirect control, over journalists.
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Is there any proof those are real guidelines sent by Cedar Point to all media day attendees? There are a handful of typos and formatting errors in that post, which seems unusual for an official communication from the park.
I’d like to remind everyone that certain posters have a track record of sharing fake or doctored photos and asserting them as legitimate — including in this very thread.
I’d like to remind everyone that certain posters have a track record of sharing fake or doctored photos and asserting them as legitimate — including in this very thread.
Yeah, if anyone has evidence of its legitimacy, feel free to reach out to me via DM (or post publicly of you're confident you can't be (or don't care about being) tracked).
I said that tongue in cheek jokingly - even if this is legitimate it's not uncommon for any business to hand out talking points. This just seems very over the top (hence the joking).
I would, personally, like to commend CP for their refreshing transparency in their communications with their media event guests.
While we can only infer the strong-arm tactics they are using against journalists, based on things like their backlisting of The Sandusky Register, if this leak is real we can see the level of censorship and brute control they are using against even the media-adjacent participants in their event.
Bravo!
While we can only infer the strong-arm tactics they are using against journalists, based on things like their backlisting of The Sandusky Register, if this leak is real we can see the level of censorship and brute control they are using against even the media-adjacent participants in their event.
Bravo!
This is pretty typical for any kind of media event. And for a good reason-- there's a saying in news "if it bleads, it leads" meaning they are always looking for shocking/sensational content. When they just settled that lawsuit they really want to focus on the new, positive information instead of dwelling on past incidents. "Enthusiasts" quite often like to talk about things beyond the "this ride is great" that the park wants to have.
The news loves to make a big deal out of nothing when it comes to theme parks/roller coaster malfunctions and accidents. Having grown up in New Jersey with the New York news media and having lived through one of the worst events in theme park history, I can tell you every time any kind of accident or incident would happen at any park anywhere the news stories would always be something like "A roller coaster broke down in a theme park thousands of miles away today-- this roller coaster is similar to one at Six Flags Great Adventure where a fire in the haunted house killed 8 teenagers". They LOVE to dwell on accidents and injuries.
The news loves to make a big deal out of nothing when it comes to theme parks/roller coaster malfunctions and accidents. Having grown up in New Jersey with the New York news media and having lived through one of the worst events in theme park history, I can tell you every time any kind of accident or incident would happen at any park anywhere the news stories would always be something like "A roller coaster broke down in a theme park thousands of miles away today-- this roller coaster is similar to one at Six Flags Great Adventure where a fire in the haunted house killed 8 teenagers". They LOVE to dwell on accidents and injuries.
I'm... not seeing the big deal here. This just looks like an email sent to ACE members (either by ACE or Cedar Point themselves) that got invited to media day, to simply be riders in the background of news shoots.
Obviously Cedar Point wouldn't want an ACE member, if asked by a reporter for an article/tv piece, to say something like "Yeah this ride was great, but I think Intamin could have done a better job than Zamperla". Nor would Cedar Point want them to bring up Dragster itself, especially the Dragster incident. I wouldn't expect a news anchor to ask something like that to a random media day guest, but as @GAcoaster just mentioned, enthusiasts can & do often speak on more than they should. Not really their place to speak on the incident.
If this can be proven that it was sent to ALL media day invitees, that may be different story... but I don't really have an issue with most of the stuff here.
Obviously Cedar Point wouldn't want an ACE member, if asked by a reporter for an article/tv piece, to say something like "Yeah this ride was great, but I think Intamin could have done a better job than Zamperla". Nor would Cedar Point want them to bring up Dragster itself, especially the Dragster incident. I wouldn't expect a news anchor to ask something like that to a random media day guest, but as @GAcoaster just mentioned, enthusiasts can & do often speak on more than they should. Not really their place to speak on the incident.
If this can be proven that it was sent to ALL media day invitees, that may be different story... but I don't really have an issue with most of the stuff here.
This goes right along with "no logos", "solid color shirts only", "follow all park rules" they send to all media day attendees.
I don’t think any of that excuses the strong arm tactics they are using against The Sandusky Register.
If they don’t want outlets to express their honest opinions, they should not have media events. The role of the media is to report the facts, not to repeat what the company wants them to say. The participants in a media event are not employees of CP’s marketing department.
Telling people what to say is simply a bridge too far.
It is one thing to ask ACE members to act a certain way on camera, since they are there essentially as unpaid actors. And it is fair to tell them to direct any questions to park marketing. It is not reasonable, in my opinion, to mandate positive reactions and scripted responses (double-plus good!), especially if the press doesn’t know the ACE members are under a gag order.
started a conversation with you (i believe i did it right, not sure), but i do indeed have proof its real.
Did a vampire take this photo, or do I have a dumb bird brain that thought this was a photo of a mirror?
There is no mirror, that's just the other side of the bathroom
