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^Paramount really neglected Carowinds.  When they first purchased the parks Kings Island was the flagship and they kept it that way for many years.  Canada's Wonderland had the best gate numbers but they never did much with that park either since people went regardless.  The only other park in the Paramount chain that saw significant additions was KD and BGW forced that hand.
 
I'm sitting at home looking at kd's 2014 map (which I don't like because things look to spread out) and If someone who doesn't know the park came, to them it would look like everything is on the left side because the right has no coasters.  Sure you have grizzly and hurler but those are in the back and not many people put woodys at the top of their list.  They should add a good coaster over there through the woods where white water rafting and dinosaurs alive are or next/behind the 3d theater(dinosaur themed would be cool).  They need a new one because it has been 4 years since intimidator and 5 would be perfect.  BGW took that time between Griffon and Verbolten and it will be 3 years between Verbolten and their new coaster when it opens next year.
 
Quite honestly, one of my worst fears is a new coaster in Old Virginia, and I do worry that Old Virginia will be the next hamlet to get a coaster. Old Virginia, one of the park's best-themed areas, is in dire need of some love and sprucing-up to greatly improve the area's experience. However, looking at how the area is laid out, something would have to give in order to build a new attraction in Old Virginia. Things that could likely be removed for a new coaster include:

- Grizzly. I love Grizzly, and I would hate to see it go. However, with the addition of Dinosaurs Alive, I wonder if it has been removed from the "endangered" list because of the impact on Dinosaurs Alive. While it could be argued that coaster construction would not be impacted by an upcharge walkthrough attraction, thinking of the tight corner a new coaster would be painted in between the Kings Dominion Theater, Dinosaurs Alive, Hurler (removing more than one coaster for a new one is extremely unlikely), and the Dino Store, Grizzly does not seem to be on valuable land for a new ride. There is some room behind Grizzly, but still, it does not seem practical to use.

- Blue Ridge Tollway. I would actually hate to see this go even more than I would hate to see Grizzly leave. I do doubt that this ride would be removed for reasons that I will get to, but it is a possibility. For one thing, Blue Ridge Tollway is an increasingly unique ride as rides like this continue to go out of style, and it is an extremely popular family ride. Also, the ride's proximity to Center Street would completely ruin the treeline on the right-hand sign going from International Street to Candy Apple Grove. Starlight Spectacular would not work. Really, the only benefit to plopping a ride where Blue Ridge is is the fact that it's a decent-sized chunk of land. However, replacing a heavily forested family ride with a coaster does nothing more than make the park look like a parking-lot coaster collector.

- Hurler. Not in Old Virginia, so if a new coaster were to go anywhere I would certainly want it to replace Hurler. I am sure most would agree with me on this. Hurler is horribly unpopular and takes up valuable real estate. It would not be terribly missed, removing it would not involve removing many trees, etc. etc. Honestly, the only thing that would make me sad would be the fact that Hurler is a very picturesque coaster. I love how it looks nestled between the Rock Shop and the woods, with the Juke Box Diner in the foreground. The only thing that confuses me is why the park keeps pouring money into "improving" the ride, when I see such "improvements" garnering few more riders. Maybe this is their last-ditch effort to see if they should just scrap the ride. I would not be heartbroken. A few weeks ago the park did a survey of what people liked more: Hurler or Grizzly. After scrolling through the comments, about 200 people preferred grizzly. Abut 10 preferred Hurler. If Grizzly goes before Hurler, I will be livid.

There were rumors of White Water Canyon or even Shenandoah Lumber Company getting the boot, but as popular water rides in a park with an already small water ride lineup, I do not see either of them leaving. I really would like to see Old Virginia get some love, but maybe more thematic and cosmetic improvements would be better than a new attraction, for the preservation of such a beautiful hamlet. The trees in Old Virginia are the most plentiful in the park; to see them removed would make me sad.

The park did say that the Spring Bloom Festival would be expanded beyond International Street in future seasons. There actually were some Spring Bloom dining options in Old Virginia this season, and I think given Old Virginia's scope and scale, it would be the perfect area to expand the festival into. The festival was still pretty subtle this year (which was for the better since International Street is pretty enough on its own; don't mess with perfection). Maybe with an increased special events budget, the park could go near-overboard decorating the area for the festival. I guess time will tell.
 
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Evan said:
Pat Jones in the general manager for Kings Dominion and Carowinds. However, her office is at Kings Dominion.

I'm curious how much longer that will last since Carowinds has been crowned the Flagship Park of the South for Cedar Fair. I can see Caro getting its own GM or them moving her down there.
 
I certainly hope it's not the latter. Jones has done wonders to KD (having been a part of the park since it opened) and I would hate to see her attention focused more on Carowinds than Kings Dominion.
 
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Guys, where in the H@!! did you get that Pat Jones was General Manager of BOTH Kings Dominion and Carowinds?

Bart Kinzel, SON of the RETIRED Cedar Fair CEO, Dick Kinzel, is STILL GM of Carowinds. Hello?
 
Some idiot on Kings Dominion's Facebook page keeps going around complaining about how the park doesn't have enough coasters and how we need a new one. I'm honestly surprised his comments haven't been yanked for spam. To give you an idea of what he posts, this is from a few minutes ago:
I have a funny feelingthat cedar fair is going to do to KD just what six flags did to six flags america in the early part of their ownership....build up the park with coasters and or a rides for the first few years and then let the park sit idle with only minor improvements for a number of years while the other parks get new rides and coasters year after year. One reason why I stopped getting passes annually to SFA was because of their neglect of the ride side of the park while repeatedly giving big rides(coasters) to their new jersey and LA parks every two years and only adding maybe one or two things to the waterpark in that time. Back then Kings dominon was putting in new rides every year from 2001 to the present making them the only decent park in the region but I fear you guys may be following that same trend of letting KD get passed over while the other cedar fair parks will continue getting rides every year. I might just have to start going back to SFA again if that trend turns out to be true and I hope it isn't/

And he's posted this same thing at least 10 times in different spots:
We need a new inverted coaster with better capacity and layout. I'd like to see something similar to Banshee which recently opened at Kings Island.

Sigh... parks are about more than just new coasters, bud.
 
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Nicole said:
Not sure what about that post is spam?  I think he makes a lot of good points.

When I say he's posted it fifty times, I mean that literally. He really love the copy/paste function when it comes to getting his points across. Also, he clearly does not understand that just because the park isn't adding coasters, doesn't mean they're not improving.
 
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Pretzel Kaiser said:
I'm hoping the succuss of Banshee means a proper invert down the road at KD.

I know there was some talk a while ago about exclusivity for certain B&M coasters regionally with BGW. Is that still a thing? I'd love to see something as awesome as Banshee come to KD.
 
No. Why would B&M hold a contract with the park, when they have no interest anymore of using them as a manufactuer? Verbolten, wasn't made by B&M, and SWP&E has yet to build one since it was BEC. So no, any long-term contract BGW held with B&M has most likely been revoked by SWP&E.
 
I think the rumor was that when Busch bought Alpengheist they had a clause in the contract that B&M wouldn't sell a coaster within a certain radius of the park. SFA and KD haven't bought a new B&M. No one has ever said they knew all the details of that deal, but I'd wager that as soon as that contract is over (maybe 20 years from the sale of Alpengheist?) that KD will buy the best B&M they can.
 
I feel like signing a contract with a park, so you can only build at that park, and that park uses other manufacturers for their coasters, is a bad deal for B&M. I assume Verbolten being made by Zierer should prove that the deal is void.
 
Joe said:
I assume Verbolten being made by Zierer should prove that the deal is void.

Just because they went with a different vendor doesn't void their original deal with b&m. Unless that was in their deal. Regardless, I do think that deal has to be ending soon and I hope we get a banshee like coaster at KD.
 
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