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Can you see BGW buying the Brewery?

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They had originally planned to open a park in Manassas, VA back in the 90s. They gave up after local opposition, and the failure that is Disneyland Paris. As for anyone else; Six Flags-No, they have thought about it but they're still in too much debt; Cedar Fair-No, they still have KD; Herschend Entertainment/The Dollywood Company-Maybe, but there's the issue of cash; Hershey-Doubtful, they've never built a park outside of PA; Merlin-Unsure, Blackstone presumably wouldn't want SWP&E and Merlin to compete like that though they did build a Legoland in Orlando; Universal-Unknown, it's possible but then again Comcast owns them now and they may be reluctant to build a new park; and PARC-No, they're barely staying afloat let alone expanding.
 
so at the moment there is no competition for SWPE because of money in williamsburg. i guess that makes perfect sense to add another park, plus it would totally be better than KD because its two parks in one plus a water park not that far with a shuttle to it.
 
If another park is built in Williamsburg, it would not suprise me if another big named company built a park within 2 hours of Williamsburg. If a SeaWorld is built, I would put money on Disney looking at putting something out here. They have already had a theme park and a hotel planned, only to be put down, but clearly they have some interest in the area.
 
look at it like so, there are only 2 parks in the state, why is that? all sorts of reasons, the only real reason for BGW is because busch already owned the land and wanted to make a little extra money. As for KD, it is a mystery. anyways, just look at what blackstone sees. an untapped market, like fuel for instance, imagine williamsburg as being an untapped fuel source, blackstone being the first to realize it, has the advantage, thus being able to build everything up before any competitors and having the upper hand. if another park is built near williamsburg, there is no doubt that other major parks will start talking to their realtors.
 
Party Rocker said:
look at it like so, there are only 2 parks in the state, why is that? all sorts of reasons, the only real reason for BGW is because busch already owned the land and wanted to make a little extra money.
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Actually, BGW wasn't built because Anheuser-Busch "already had the land and wanted more money." August Busch II was friends with Winthrop Rockefeller and lured AB to purchase land in James City County rather than Newport News. When AB made the purchase, plans called for a brewery, theme park, and resort. All three developments were planned with the success of other Busch properties and weren't after thoughts.

As much as everyone here thinks building a SeaWorld would be amazing, you have no idea how many hurdles would have to be jumped for it to come to fruition. It's much, much more difficult than buying a brewery, tearing it down, and building a park.
 
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Gavin said:
Blackstone is doing what all of us thought would be insane 5 years ago, now with Verbolten and soon with the upcoming resort.
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Okay not to beat what seems to be a dead horse to all of you, but what proof is there of this “upcoming resort”? Frankly, the idea seems ludacrous.
 
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Gavin said:
Blackstone is doing what all of us thought would be insane 5 years ago, now with Verbolten and soon with the upcoming resort.
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Okay not to beat what seems to be a dead horse to all of you, but what proof is there of this “upcoming resort”? Frankly, the idea seems ludacrous.
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You make very good point.
 
I don't think anyone is claiming there's evidence- people are just saying that ______ is possible and ______ seems like it makes sense. The only thing I know is that the brewery isn't doing so great.
 
the resort is happening, they either decided to move the boneyard somewhere else for no reason or to make room for the resort. i have talked to people who had been back there recently and sad the whole place is practically cleared out now.

as for the brewery, it isn't doing good, and i could see it shutting down, and is blackstone was adventurous enough, perhaps they would indeed buy the land and plan something out, but i am sure the park has no plans for the brewery and won't until they know for sure the brewery is up for sale and they buy it.

a multi park location is possible, but not very likely at this time.
 
the boneyard is the area of the resort, so basically both. what i mean is

they could one or the other,

just move the boneyard for some strange reason
or
move the boneyard for the resort

which seems more likely?
 
the boneyard doesn't exist anymore....it is extinct.... it is now just a plot of land ready to be developed. and I seriously doubt you confirmed with people that the boneyard is nearing empty. Not many people actually visit that place. It seems to me you gather up what everyone else says and reiterate it again and again.
 
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no, i have talked to one of my closest friends, they had to go back there only for one occasion, the area was used for regular storage as well as hiding defunct rides and large entertainment props.
 
I know a guy. :p

I can't tell you details (for obvious reasons) but I know 100% that the source is solid. When I pass something along I will normally try to specify if the source is iffy or I'm unsure of them.
 
I did find this from Sept. Looks like InBev is trying to make big moves in the american lager world.

I also found a news article from the DP that mentioned they had to go to temporary lay-offs in 2Q 2010 for "operational reasons." Sort of old news though.

It also looks like they offered severance packages to 300 union workers across the country. It looks like they were overstaffed in 2010.

None of that really points at them closing the brewery, but if they do buy Miller in the next year or so, I'd imagine they would consolidate their breweries. But yea, I get that you know a guy. Hope he's wrong, though.
 
A friend of mine's step dad was almost laid off when the brewery considered cutting a massive amount of staff about 2 years ago. So it's no mystery the places better days are behind them.
 
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InBev has massively restructured all of the US AB breweries. Serious layoffs, cost cutting, benefits slashing, executive trimming, etc. across the board. The question is: is that just what they're doing everywhere and that's the way their business is going to be run, or is there anything to indicate specific problems with the Williamsburg location that would lead to a plausible assumption that they are looking to sell off that property? (note: I have no idea ;) )
 
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