Can you see BGW buying the Brewery?


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Gavin said:
^That's a loaded question.
His question is about to go off with a bang. But, is a good one.

I don't think you will see tall parking decks in Williamsburg. Since the zoning will not allow this and that is one of the big reasons why Mach Tower is a shorter versions of Moser's gravity rides.
 
Shafor said:
Yeah, but when you have a community that based an historical period and it's overall "quaintness" are you really going to want to blaze 4 lane highways and parking garages in the middle of it?
I really dont think theyd mind(city gov.). Now as you said, most of the locals would leave. My grandparents would see it as another attraction and they would love it. Of course they are retired and have nothing better to do. Williamsburg really has taken off from what it used to be. Having been around the area for the last 15 years that i can actually remember. Id love to see it grow even more, but as Shafor said, the tourism would drive a lot of the locals up. Give and take really.
 
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AoenOne said:
Williamsburg really has taken off from what it used to be. Having been around the area for the last 15 years that i can actually remember.

No doubt. And it will continue to grow. But I think there is a big distinction between an area expanding organically to accommodate the increasing popularity of it's existing attractions vs. engineering new attractions to specifically draw in new tourism.

It's like owning a little quaint country inn and adding a deck to it for additional seating to accommodate your increased business vs. building a race track across the street, widening the road, building a parking garage, and opening 6 more inns to increase business. Not so quaint anymore ;)
 
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Frontseatbill said:
I don't think you will see tall parking decks in Williamsburg. Since the zoning will not allow this and that is one of the big reasons why Mach Tower is a shorter versions of Moser's gravity rides.

I'm not proposing a 10 floor parking structure.

Gavin said:
Underground parking decks. If you can't build up, there's always down.

I was thinking something similar to Norfolk Scope's Garage, two levels below and then add maybe two levels above. Not very tall at all. Parking structures' ceilings tend to be lower than traditional ceiling heights as well. It would not be taller than the Globe theater at the most. There are plenty of taller buildings in Williamsburg, plus the structure could be designed and themed in such a way to make it look aesthetically pleasing rather than a nasty garage.

Swift has said it before, but just imagine what the designers of Verbolten and Manta, CA could do with a whole new park...
 
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Williamsburg is small, the roads are inadequate for large traffic flows, the place is completely educational and not party central. Orlando is more capable of larger traffic, the place is fun and exciting and also has amazing weather most of the year. How are they alike again?
 
Party Rocker said:
Williamsburg is small, the roads are inadequate for large traffic flows, the place is completely educational and not party central. Orlando is more capable of larger traffic, the place is fun and exciting and also has amazing weather most of the year. How are they alike again?

Orlando before Disney, ever heard of it? Or how about Williamsburg before the Rockefellers?
 
Shafor said:
Gavin said:
Why wouldn't they want to be? In some ways they already are just like Orlando, just on a smaller scale.

Uhhh... :shocked:

Theme Park Insider's Robert Niles said:
...Ultimately, Colonial Williamsburg is a theme park. Not one with rides, but a themed recreation of another time, nevertheless. Almost all the buildings date from the 1930s or later. And to get the most from your day, it demands planning and strategy, just like visiting a theme park...

Read the rest here.

Some of you may not realize it, but Colonial Williamsburg, Jamestown, and (to a lesser extent) Yorktown can be considered theme parks. They may not be theme parks in the traditional sense, but that doesn't mean they aren't. They attract millions of guests each year from all over the world. Orlando does the same thing, but on a much larger scale. Yes, Orlando was built from the ground up to be a resort town and Williamsburg, not so much. But, Swiftman said somewhere that "Blackstone is looking to change the very face of the South-Eastern Virginia Tourism market". Building a SeaWorld would do just that, and then some. Yes, I know building a SeaWorld on the site of the brewery would involve investing well over a billion dollars in upgrading roads, overpasses, interchanges, hotels, and other infrastructure. But if Merlin is any indication, Blackstone is willing to make such large investments. Merlin started out as a small amusement company in 1998, Blackstone bought them and turned them into the largest amusement company in the world based on locations, and the second largest (after Disney) in the number of guests each year. Blackstone is going to want to "leave its mark" on SWP&E, just like they have with Merlin. This includes large investments that some people may not think makes any sense. Five years ago did anyone think the park would be building a 54 million dollar coaster to replace the Big Bad Wolf? Did anyone predict that they'd be building a resort as a joint venture between the park and Xanterrra/Kingsmill? No, nobody did. You may think adding another major theme park in Williamsburg is insane, but guess what: Blackstone is doing what all of us thought would be insane 5 years ago, now with Verbolten and soon with the upcoming resort.
 
something is brewing, in your mind. for the sake of rumors, i would say blackstone is willing to invest in billions in the parks. after all that is their job, invest, invest, invest, and then sell for profit. but think like this, if seaworld was added, would other parks seek to compete in williamsburg? perhaps disney? or someone else even? only time can tell.
 
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