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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Looks topped of to me, the ledgers aren't at an incline anymore. I think 8/16 is Cedar Fairs announcement day the same way that Six Flags does all of its announcements on the same day madmax.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Grant said:
Looks topped of to me, the ledgers aren't at an incline anymore.


It's not about the ledgers being at an incline anymore.

Again, show me a pic where there is actual track at the crest of the lift that shows that it is literally topped off.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Grant said:
Looks topped of to me, the ledgers aren't at an incline anymore. I think 8/16 is Cedar Fairs announcement day the same way that Six Flags does all of its announcements on the same day madmax.

Problem is CGA and KBF's announcements are at different times, not at once like Six Flags; I mean actual real life press announcements that get people excited, not a lame online one.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

"Topped off" was a poor phrase to use without specifically saying that I was referring to the structure and not the track. My meaning was that the ride has, effectively reached its highest point.

On that note, my estimates are putting it around 110 feet judging by the support structure. Interestingly, if we assume the teaser below is in reference to the ride's height, 83 feet (Hurler's original height) plus 28 feet (number in the teaser), gives us 111 feet. Seems plausible in my mind.

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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Zachary said:
"Topped off" was a poor phrase to use without specifically saying that I was referring to the structure and not the track. My meaning was that the ride has, effectively reached its highest point.

Leave it to Zachary to redefine what a "topped off" coaster is! :p

Seriously though, the "topping off" of a coaster is used by industry personnel (companies and parks) when planning and scheduling the construction of a coaster and the target date when they want to install the highest piece of track.  It's often looked at as a milestone in the construction of the entire project.

Many parks will even make it a media event.

When BGW topped off Griffon in December 2006, it received quite a bit of press in the local and even national news.  

Busch Gardens Europe Tops Off New Dive Coaster

December 13, 2006

Williamsburg, VA — Construction crews building the world's tallest dive coaster at Busch Gardens Europe have topped off Griffon as the roller coaster reaches its 205-foot pinnacle.

"It's all downhill from here, literally," according Busch Gardens.

The ceremonial evergreen was placed on the highest point as construction workers installed the tallest piece of the steel coaster. Track pieces number eight and nine (out of 91) sit about 200 feet above the ground. It took two cranes to lift the 74-thousand pound piece into place and a pair of construction workers to tighten the bolts.

"Installing the highest piece of track is a significant achievement, and it's everything we've envisioned," said Larry Giles, the vice president of design and engineering for Busch Gardens Europe and Water Country USA. "It's a milestone. From blueprint to reality."

Construction workers also placed an evergreen tree at the coaster's highpoint to highlight the event. "Topping off" is a construction site tradition meant to celebrate the highest or least piece of construction. "The evergreen is part of an age old tradition, and it's a sense of pride for us," said Giles.

When Griffon opens next spring it will be the world's first floorless dive coaster. Beginning at 205-feet, the coaster starts with a 90-degree drop. Traveling at a top speed of 75 mph, riders will experience two Immelman loops, a second drop and a splash down in water.

Crews have been working on Griffon since July and the roller coaster is expected to be ready to open in late spring.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Looks like some of our predictions from the teasers are coming true.

Now we have: "20. better than 4.", "3. Better than none." And "the force rattled the windows." To figure out
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Looks like I was wrong.

What time is the announcement and where? In front of Hurler at night is my guess.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

Having seen the work yesterday I am much more hopeful for this the removal of so much of the top structure and added structure seems like it gives them more to work with. I finally getting hopeful for new elements and not just a taller steel Hurler with a simular layout.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

horsesboy said:
Having seen the work yesterday I am much more hopeful for this the removal of so much of the top structure and added structure seems like it gives them more to work with. I finally getting hopeful for new elements and not just a taller steel Hurler with a simular layout.

I'm starting to feel this could be the first RMC that's actually longer than the original.
 
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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

I would hope so, since Hurler was pretty short to begin with. It's gotta be one of the smallest conversions RMC has done to date.
 
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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

MAZ said:
I would hope so, since Hurler was pretty short to begin with. It's gotta be one of the smallest conversions RMC has done to date.

I'm thinking it will be longer. When RMC converted Roar into Joker at SFDK, they actually shortened the track by about 100 feet after the conversion. I'm guessing the footprint size of the ride (being landlocked between Superman and V2) and the compact twister layout didn't allow a lot of room for expansion. And both Joker and Roar at SFA have a longer track length than the original Hurler but, Hurler has a footprint that's twice the size of both giving RMC much more room to work with.
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

So I ran some comparison numbers here from RCDB on the original ride lengths compared to the Iron Horse conversion ride length.

  • Texas Giant - 4,920 ft    --    New Texas Giant - 4,200 ft
  • Rattler - 5,080 ft    --    Iron Rattler - 3,266 ft
  • Medusa - 3,136 ft    --    Medusa Steel Coaster - 3,000 ft
  • Cyclone - 3,600 ft    --    Wicked Cyclone - 3,320 ft
  • ROAR - 3,291 ft    --    Joker - 3,200 ft
So here are a couple of oddballs, two dueling coasters that were combined into one coaster, so the results are a little unusual.

  • Stella - 3,000ft    --    Lola - 3,000 ft    --    Twisted Twins - 6,000 ft    --    Storm Chaser - 2,744 ft
  • Colossus - 4,325 ft    --    Combined Colossus - 8650 ft    --    Twisted Colossus - 4,990
And for S's & G's here are RMC's scratch builds:
  • Outlaw Run - 2,937 ft
  • Goliath - 3,100 ft
  • Wildfire - 4,150
  • Lightning Rod - 3,800 ft
I'm a little bit puzzled by the lengths on Colossus and wonder if they are accurate. I know with Twisted Twins that they didn't exactly combine the two layouts, but used portions of both coasters to create an entirely new and unique coaster while removing the rest. Colossus, I thought used more of both of the original layouts than these numbers seem to imply.

All of that being said you can see in virtually all cases that RMC has reduced the length of the original coaster in their new creation. Will Hurler be an exception? We will have to wait and find out.
  • Hurler - 3,157 ft
 
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler

madmax said:
A car. Possibly the train head of the coaster.

Once you said car, it began to look like the Juke Box Diner cars to me. Didn't those disappear? If so, I wonder if they're being re-purposed for the ride/themed area.

 

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