RMC Hurler
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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
Its a renovation lol not really a new coaster. Gonna have different elements. If i change my kitchen around and change my cabinets and add different floors is it a whole new kitchen or did i renovate? Or is it bothhugecoltsfan said:
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
RMC conversions are not considered renovations. The RCDB classifies them as completely new rides and classifies the original as defunct. It is all new hardware the only thing that remains in most cases is footers and small portions of the support structure. In KD's case, they appear to also be reusing the station. By your logic, is Verbolten really the Big Bad Wolf? It reuses the station, several footers, and even a portion of the layout. I don't think anyone here would argue that Verbolten is actually a renovated Big Bad Wolf.
RMC conversions are not considered renovations. The RCDB classifies them as completely new rides and classifies the original as defunct. It is all new hardware the only thing that remains in most cases is footers and small portions of the support structure. In KD's case, they appear to also be reusing the station. By your logic, is Verbolten really the Big Bad Wolf? It reuses the station, several footers, and even a portion of the layout. I don't think anyone here would argue that Verbolten is actually a renovated Big Bad Wolf.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
There was an interesting theory in reddit:
Im thinking the ⊥T will be embraced in the ride's text or logo somehow. It almost looks like the topper track coming and going at different angles as to imply inversions.
HANG⊥IME
Yup! Just like that - and its close enough to the expanded waterpark maybe it will be a surf like theme which would work with the old Stan Mikita if they went with some kind of boardwalk theme there
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and I will add, can then make another entrance to waterpark behind it and Ricochet.
There was an interesting theory in reddit:
Im thinking the ⊥T will be embraced in the ride's text or logo somehow. It almost looks like the topper track coming and going at different angles as to imply inversions.
HANG⊥IME
Yup! Just like that - and its close enough to the expanded waterpark maybe it will be a surf like theme which would work with the old Stan Mikita if they went with some kind of boardwalk theme there
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and I will add, can then make another entrance to waterpark behind it and Ricochet.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
Sorry, no troll. And I won't stoop to the 10 year old name calling
madmax said:
Sorry, no troll. And I won't stoop to the 10 year old name calling
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
The 8/16 date from the 816 teaser is probably when the new/whatever ride will be announced. It's about when they announce their new rides -- if earlier, also note the park is closed the last 3 days of August for the first time. With the progress so far, the only way it won't open with the park next year is if somehow it opens even earlier. Why would they wait to announce a ride until it's open?
I was in the park in 2009 and it was dead all June (although July was busier than this year) and as soon as they announced I305 in August the crowds increased like crazy for the rest of the month. While enthusiasts may wait 'til next year for a ride to open, it appears the GP responds to publicity of any kind. The August announcements give a boost towards the end of the summer as a one-time publicity shot.
RKRCC said:
The 8/16 date from the 816 teaser is probably when the new/whatever ride will be announced. It's about when they announce their new rides -- if earlier, also note the park is closed the last 3 days of August for the first time. With the progress so far, the only way it won't open with the park next year is if somehow it opens even earlier. Why would they wait to announce a ride until it's open?
I was in the park in 2009 and it was dead all June (although July was busier than this year) and as soon as they announced I305 in August the crowds increased like crazy for the rest of the month. While enthusiasts may wait 'til next year for a ride to open, it appears the GP responds to publicity of any kind. The August announcements give a boost towards the end of the summer as a one-time publicity shot.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
Sorry but unless you're new to the theme park business (who knows maybe you are) you have to be trolling to think that KD hasn't acknowledged this RMC or that they wouldn't have an announcement for it.
Plus one of the teasers said "2018" on it.
RKRCC said:
Sorry but unless you're new to the theme park business (who knows maybe you are) you have to be trolling to think that KD hasn't acknowledged this RMC or that they wouldn't have an announcement for it.
Plus one of the teasers said "2018" on it.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
Name calling of any kind is not ok and, as was previously stated, is inherently childish. If you think someone's assessment of a situation is stupid, you are free to hold that opinion. That said, you are not allowed to then lash out at the user because of that assessment. If you have constructive criticism of someone's perspective and you believe your viewpoint contributes to the discussion, share it—but not through rudeness and condescension.
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And before anyone gets worked up, no, this post isn't directed at any particular member—it is just a rant regarding politeness in general that I felt needed to be relayed given the current state of this conversation.
Name calling of any kind is not ok and, as was previously stated, is inherently childish. If you think someone's assessment of a situation is stupid, you are free to hold that opinion. That said, you are not allowed to then lash out at the user because of that assessment. If you have constructive criticism of someone's perspective and you believe your viewpoint contributes to the discussion, share it—but not through rudeness and condescension.
Before you hit "Post Reply," read your post and think about what your reaction would be if it was directed back at you. Is it rude? Does it escalate the animosity of the discussion? If the answer to one of those is yes, that post isn't ready to be published. Disclaimer: Almost any post that resorts to name calling would violate at least one of the two questions above.
This isn't about one user or their feelings—this is about the health of this forum. If you like this place, you should want to contribute positively to the discussion environment here. Conversely, if that desire is lacking, maybe it is time to question why you post here at all.
And before anyone gets worked up, no, this post isn't directed at any particular member—it is just a rant regarding politeness in general that I felt needed to be relayed given the current state of this conversation.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
This forum is for the discussion of rmc hurler so we should keep it that way instead of butting heads with other users.
On another note, more cross beams for the lift hill have been added and all track is completely removed!!! Thanks to kdfans for the instagram update.
This forum is for the discussion of rmc hurler so we should keep it that way instead of butting heads with other users.
On another note, more cross beams for the lift hill have been added and all track is completely removed!!! Thanks to kdfans for the instagram update.
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RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
lol no because they took all the supports out, all rmc does is use the same supports and maybe add some on top of the existing, they turn a bunny hop into a barrel roll/corkscrew. Thats renovating imo.Shane said:
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
I am of mixed opinions when it comes to turning woodies into hybrids. Have said that, and only to establish my own personal bias, I have to disagree. Since RMC invented the process they are using, I think they get to define the term.
Finally aren't we really splitting hairs here?
I am of mixed opinions when it comes to turning woodies into hybrids. Have said that, and only to establish my own personal bias, I have to disagree. Since RMC invented the process they are using, I think they get to define the term.
Finally aren't we really splitting hairs here?
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
They're classified as new coasters. End of discussion.
basseyfish said:
They're classified as new coasters. End of discussion.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
I'm starting to think you haven't observed that many RMC conversions. It's far more than extending supports and converting bunny hops into barrel rolls. If you look closely at the work that has been done on Hurler, you will see that major portions of the layout have been reduced to sticks and the concrete footers themselves. In many cases RMC doesn't even utilize the footers in the same fashion as they were originally intended. Look at a side by side comparison of Wicked Cyclone and the original Cyclone, or Storm Chaser and Twisted Twins, and the ultimate conversion with Twisted Colossus and tell me those are just renovated coasters. They are completely different types of rides, with dramatically different layouts.
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, "if you rip out your entire kitchen and rebuild it, is it a renovation/remodel or is it a new kitchen?" I think the more accurate way to describe it is, "if you tear down your house and rebuild a new house on the same foundation, is it a renovation/remodel or a new house?"
Disagree with me if you must, but you are selling RMC short for the innovations they've brought to the industry and the dramatically different rides they've produced.
basseyfish said:
I'm starting to think you haven't observed that many RMC conversions. It's far more than extending supports and converting bunny hops into barrel rolls. If you look closely at the work that has been done on Hurler, you will see that major portions of the layout have been reduced to sticks and the concrete footers themselves. In many cases RMC doesn't even utilize the footers in the same fashion as they were originally intended. Look at a side by side comparison of Wicked Cyclone and the original Cyclone, or Storm Chaser and Twisted Twins, and the ultimate conversion with Twisted Colossus and tell me those are just renovated coasters. They are completely different types of rides, with dramatically different layouts.
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, "if you rip out your entire kitchen and rebuild it, is it a renovation/remodel or is it a new kitchen?" I think the more accurate way to describe it is, "if you tear down your house and rebuild a new house on the same foundation, is it a renovation/remodel or a new house?"
Disagree with me if you must, but you are selling RMC short for the innovations they've brought to the industry and the dramatically different rides they've produced.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
That's like saying Verbolten is a renovated Big Bad Wolf.
That's like saying Verbolten is a renovated Big Bad Wolf.
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
With Hurler so far they are following the same layout and adding bigger hills and stuff. Still wouldn't have been feasible with the basic wood tech, they had enough trouble keeping from feeling like it was falling apart. I always thought it would be a somewhat restrictive layout to RMC, but I don't think it's necessarily a disadvantage, they still needs hills and stuff. I think there will be some surprises to come though.
It *IS* category-crossing, renovation vs. new, wood vs. steel, probably more and at multiple levels, it's even a new way of utilizing the old. As far as credits, 100% new, look at how many rides differ less. In a more positive sense, 100% rebuild of some kind in terms of making it even more interesting!
With Hurler so far they are following the same layout and adding bigger hills and stuff. Still wouldn't have been feasible with the basic wood tech, they had enough trouble keeping from feeling like it was falling apart. I always thought it would be a somewhat restrictive layout to RMC, but I don't think it's necessarily a disadvantage, they still needs hills and stuff. I think there will be some surprises to come though.
It *IS* category-crossing, renovation vs. new, wood vs. steel, probably more and at multiple levels, it's even a new way of utilizing the old. As far as credits, 100% new, look at how many rides differ less. In a more positive sense, 100% rebuild of some kind in terms of making it even more interesting!
RE: Project 2018: RMC Hurler
Anybody else think the first airtime hill is pretty short compared to the lift?
Anybody else think the first airtime hill is pretty short compared to the lift?