News Project 2027/Purple: Delayed “World Record Breaking Coaster" (Phantom Spire?)

[RDL]

On that same note (sorry for the double post), but if this is truly a Boardwalk coaster, I’m not sure what they could name it that fits purple track, dark grey supports, and a 400+ foot height.

GADV knows we're nosy. They know enthusiasts are on top of every trademark filing the second it happens. On one hand, Phantom Spire could be a red herring just to get us buzzing. They’ve done this in the past with 300ft+ coasters; trademarking Centurion as a fakeout for Fury 325 and Polaris for Orion. Honestly, those two names were so simple they probably came up with them on the toilet.

By comparison, Phantom Spire feels like more than sitting-on-the-toilet thought was put into it. It’s a high-concept name that to me suggests a gothic, abandoned cathedral or graveyard vibe, especially if they play into the Ka tower being the literal "phantom spire" of the area. It feels way more sophisticated than those usual throwaway trademarks. Then again, look at Tormenta (the newest 300ft+ coaster); they trademarked that one name way in advance, and it ended up being the actual name.

Either the name is a total placeholder to distract us (which, if it is, is a very very clever one and someone deserves a raise for that) or there's more to the Phantom Spire "lore" than meets the eye.

I wouldn’t put it past them to throw us off like that. They’ve purposely kept manufacturer information blocked out so that thoosies wouldn’t be able to see it on any shipping documents. Could totally see them doing something like this.

I like the name Phantom Spire a lot, but if it’s something else I wouldn’t complain either.

 

[warfelg]

I want to put my own name and lore for it out there:

Phantom Ka

It’s my own twist on Phantom’s Revenge idea from Kennywood and BGT changing Gwazi to be a crock. The Ka is an ancient being from the depths of of the Jersey Shore, who upon hearing it’s brother’s demise (the land dwelling spirit Kingda Ka) has decided to take revenge on the humans closest to it for what they did. The angry sea dwelling Phantom Ka possesses humans in the form of the Kraken to come from the deep to destroy the lighthouse that threatens the very existence of the Ka of the sea and the air.

 

[Zachary]

How about an industrial slant for Phantom Spire?

I was doing some googling and learned about this long-abandoned, 1930s steam plant right on the oceanfront along the boardwalk in Asbury Park:

The Monolith of Asbury Park

The Asbury Park boardwalk. In one word, iconic. About a mile of New Jersey history. The Casino. The Palace. The Carousel. The Paramount. Tillie the Clown. Convention Hall. The Berkeley Car…

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The Asbury Park Heating Plant — Vintage Asbury Park

Vintage Postcards and Historical Photos of the Heating Plant next to the Casino in Asbury Park, NJ

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Large, imposing, boxy tower over the boardwalk left abandoned for decades with some backstory about a mayor trying to show up other Jersey Shore boardwalk towns only to fall on hard times and for the place to become haunted? I could see it. It would be very reminiscent of Iron Menace's theme and we know some of the same minds are involved here. Could probably be some steam and launch thematic synergy there too?

 

[amperedragon]

I was listening to a podcast the other day that had Ryan Eldredge on as a guest, and while he didn't say much about potential themes, it was mentioned that the 2027 coaster was very much being seen as the headliner attraction of the revitalized boardwalk area, so whether it ends up being a haunted lighthouse or something completely different I would expect it to have a strong nautical theme of some sort. It was also mentioned that the ride was considered the Green Lantern replacement, so I would expect minimal if any references to Kingda Ka.

 

[northdetective]

It was also mentioned that the ride was considered the Green Lantern replacement

I actually think they could've sold a dive to the public as a GL replacement and promise something actually worthwhile will be coming down the road to replace KK.

It didn't happen immediately, but SEGA did end up fixing Sonic's arms.

 

[Coasternerd]

Was there a reason to quote all 3 of those with zero context or..?

 

[northdetective]

This ride may be considered the Green Lantern replacement

Maybe that means something actually worthwhile will be coming down the road to replace KK

That is something I loudly demand from a large corporation

"Irrational," esoteric, or otherwise overly specific and/or very loud demands that most other people mock have been met accidentally by large corporations in the past

The northdetective project continues to demand a Greater Adventure for all

Feels redundant

 

[Coasternerd]

Understandable. Typically, if one is quoting a post there’s some kind of commentary they would like to provide, so I got confused is all. Thanks for the clarification!

 

[GASM]

Never thought I’d see the day the CWCki was linked to ParkFans, and I wish I still hadn’t.

Large, imposing, boxy tower over the boardwalk left abandoned for decades with some backstory about a mayor trying to show up other Jersey Shore boardwalk towns only to fall on hard times and for the place to become haunted? I could see it. It would be very reminiscent of Iron Menace's theme and we know some of the same minds are involved here. Could probably be some steam and launch thematic synergy there too?

This may be too far out of the box to be realistic, but honestly this is my favorite theme idea yet. The Steam Plant is one of my favorite bizarre abandoned buildings in NJ, being completely unmissable if you’re in AP but mysterious to most.

 

[DWNitro]

What if Tillie was behind the boardwalk being haunted…

 

[amperedragon]

Maybe that means something actually worthwhile will be coming down the road to replace KK

Ryan stated that a complete redo of the Golden Kingdom was on the project list, but he also said that the next coaster they wanted to add was a headlining family coaster (Big Bear Mountain was given as an example of the style and scale they were targeting). The sense I got is that they feel the combination of Jersey Devil, Flash, and the 2027 coaster is sufficient to satisfy thrillseekers for a while and they'll be looking at attractions geared toward a larger cross-section of visitors with the next couple major projects. If those two wind up being merged together, a family launch coaster anchoring a new iteration of the Golden Kingdom and serving as the Kingda Ka replacement seems plausible, and while I'm sure enthusiasts would probably bitch about it until the end of time, I'd consider that a very good fit for the park.

 

[dwillt]

If we were to see an abandoned lighthouse theme or something boardwalk themed integrated for this coaster, I’d honestly rather them use a different name than Phantom Spire. When I hear this name I think more gothic or supernatural, and I feel like the colors of the coaster indicate that too (track gives Banshee vibes + dark supports). Plus I feel like a spire alludes more to a cathedral or a dark, large tower more than a lighthouse.

Yeah, I had similar thoughts. "Spire" isn't a word usually used for a lighthouse. "The Phantom Light" would be more fitting (since "lighthouse" is commonly shortened to "light"), but "spire" just sounds better.

I suppose they could just give it a bit of backstory, saying that the lighthouse's name is The Spire Lighthouse, and it has been abandoned for ages, etc,

 

[Mushroom]

“Phantom Lighthouse” has kind of a cool ring to it IMO.

 

[DWNitro]

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[zdesigns]

Sorry if this is random, I haven't been following this project as closely as you all but where did the lighthouse theme come from? Is there any lore or teasers that I am missing?

 

[sharpr1]

Sorry if this is random, I haven't been following this project as closely as you all but where did the lighthouse theme come from? Is there any lore or teasers that I am missing?

Trademark filing in the state a few months ago for the name "Phantom Spire," which we've all assumed to be a haunted lighthouse concept. When asked more recently, Ryan E said they would file for multiple names for things and not to read into any one thing we may find. But to-date, we haven't seen any other filings. With the Boardwalk area and re-envigoration going on, we're assuming Phantom Spire or some variation as a haunted lighthouse will be what the new coaster is named/themed given it's in the Boardwalk/NJ themes section. With the track and support arrival in dark grey and purple, that seems to support some kind of haunted theme.

 

[Zachary]

I think Coliwood Studios was super early on the possible lighthouse theory/rumor, right? Don't remember exactly. Would probably need to dig way back in this thread to see where it first surfaced.

I'd definitely say it's the popular theory in the community right now though for sure.

 

[xenithwav]

Trademark filing in the state a few months ago for the name "Phantom Spire," which we've all assumed to be a haunted lighthouse concept. When asked more recently, Ryan E said they would file for multiple names for things and not to read into any one thing we may find. But to-date, we haven't seen any other filings. With the Boardwalk area and re-envigoration going on, we're assuming Phantom Spire or some variation as a haunted lighthouse will be what the new coaster is named/themed given it's in the Boardwalk/NJ themes section. With the track and support arrival in dark grey and purple, that seems to support some kind of haunted theme.

Agreed. I just hope (and have confidence) its cohesive; I wouldn't want it to end up like Kings Island's Action Zone that has Banshee and Bat (haunted themes), but also Delirium, Drop Zone, and Invertigo (not haunted themes). I definitely have faith the company will actually tie in the themes of the rides to the Boardwalk theme, rather than having a bunch of scattered themes that all just happened to be located in the "Boardwalk" section of the park. Given their recent themed areas though, I have my full faith we won't end up with an Action Zone situation lol

 

[dwillt]

Agreed. I just hope (and have confidence) its cohesive; I wouldn't want it to end up like Kings Island's Action Zone that has Banshee and Bat (haunted themes), but also Delirium, Drop Zone, and Invertigo (not haunted themes). I definitely have faith the company will actually tie in the themes of the rides to the Boardwalk theme, rather than having a bunch of scattered themes that all just happened to be located in the "Boardwalk" section of the park. Given their recent themed areas though, I have my full faith we won't end up with an Action Zone situation lol

I wouldn't mind the mix of haunted and not haunted themes, provided it all ties to the boardwalk theme.
So, in that sense, I'd be fine with a haunted lighthouse sitting next to a ride that's themed to non-spooky pelicans, or whatever.

 

[mikexrated]

This may be a reach but I do believe they will announce the name of the coaster and probably go vertical before opening day in one of the videos from either coliwood or eltororyan Ryan expressed he hopes to go vertical soon and with track and supports arriving frequently I think it may happen, also at the ace event they did say they wanted to have a spring announcement and spring is soon sooo idk and also didn’t the permit for the crane have a march start date?