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I keep seeing everyone refer the new coaster to a strata. Is there actually any credible leaks to this as of yet? Just curious, because last I checked we have no idea what height this thing is going to be.
 
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I keep seeing everyone refer the new coaster to a strata. Is there actually any credible leaks to this as of yet? Just curious, because last I checked we have no idea what height this thing is going to be.
The only source I'm aware of is the survey that was the basis for all of the spinda ka rumors. My favorite part about it is the "twists and turns" reference, given that the layout features exactly one twist and one turn
 
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Hey if any GADV locals wanna trade home parks with me, I'm sure y'all would love Darien Lake 🤪
I do! Viper is fantastic, Ride of Steel's ejector airtime is classic Intamin goodness, and Predator blew me away. I went in with no expectations and left very impressed.
 
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Man the more I read this thread the more I think I am the only one who still likes going to the park 😂
GADv’s biggest asset is the potential it has. I think this is why fans are so aggravated all the time. The park has seemingly untapped potential at every corner and just when we think it’s finally hitting stride and reaching even a sliver of what it’s capable of reaching, it goes backwards. The park is still amazing and we all love it. So don’t worry, you’re not alone. We just want to talk about it like it’s on par with cedar point as it is fully capable of being in the same conversation
 
Another potential clue to the height of the tower is the spacing of the three massive footers for the base of the tower. During the season I measured approximately the distance from the first huge footer to the marking in the parking lot (which has now been dug), and they were about as far apart as the footers for Ka's tower. Since roller coasters are already so expensive, I couldn't imagine them making the base of the tower that wide if it didn't need to be.

On another note, I just got back from Qiddiya, and the local tourists were SO EXCITED for Falcons Flight that every other ride in the park was a complete walk on. I think if this tower coaster gets even 1/10th of the hype in the NJ area that we'll see a very good 2027 season, and it'll pull enough focus to put in some solid work on the rest of the park.
 
Not sure if this is related to the project, but I thought it would be worth mentioning this construction permit filed on the 8th. An 800 sq ft structure with no description attached to it which is something you don't see very often. Feel free to correct me if this is normal.
 

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Not sure if this is related to the project, but I thought it would be worth mentioning this construction permit filed on the 8th. An 800 sq ft structure with no description attached to it which is something you don't see very often. Feel free to correct me if this is normal.
800 sq ft isn't that big, it's like the size of a medium house. Probably gonna be the epicenter of the power system used to power the ride
 
The Mack Tower idea has grown on me. I wasnt excited for Flash but it actually was a really fun ride experience despite being a 1 train shuttle. Im open to the Tower being a unique and unreal ride experience despite my other concerns (downtime, capacity, OTSR, etc).

That said...I will be disappointed if this opens in 2027 and our next coaster ismt until the 2030s. I still think they need an exciting new full circuit coaster to really bring life to the park.
 
The Mack Tower idea has grown on me. I wasnt excited for Flash but it actually was a really fun ride experience despite being a 1 train shuttle. Im open to the Tower being a unique and unreal ride experience despite my other concerns (downtime, capacity, OTSR, etc).

That said...I will be disappointed if this opens in 2027 and our next coaster ismt until the 2030s. I still think they need an exciting new full circuit coaster to really bring life to the park.
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If the rumor is true that Flash was an "unplanned" anniversary addition, it's pretty clear that whatever time frame they have for the other flagships and the additions to them, Great Adventure is not held to the same standard. I don't think the Giga is ever coming, but I definitely don't see it before 2032 if history is any indicator.
 
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If the rumor is true that Flash was an "unplanned" anniversary addition, it's pretty clear that whatever time frame they have for the other flagships and the additions to them, Great Adventure is not held to the same standard. I don't think the Giga is ever coming, but I definitely don't see it before 2032 if history is any indicator.
Maybe we’ll get the drop tower from the survey in the next two years, then the next big coaster addition in 3-5 years.
 
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That’s an interesting chart that really shows the neglect great adventure had compared to other flagships in the chain. The suits at Six flags clearly thought (mistakenly) that the high yearly attendance would continue without investment. But not sure we can use that to predict the future since the leadership is more cedar fair than six flags at this point. Wonder how this stacks up to Carowinds or Kings Dominion during their expansion eras, and if we might be seeing investment more along the lines of those parks if this addition is successful.
 
You cannot say anything from the past history of additions has any bearing on future additions. We're talking about a completely different company now and there are so many variables at play at the moment. And I get that (most) people on a forum like this want COASTERS constantly, but that's what got the park into the current mess. They need to balance investments with family attractions-- not every year is a record breaking coaster. We also don't know what will happen with other parks in the chain-- there's always a chance things shift around from park to park. Cedar Fair and Six Flags have both made changes to plans when they saw weakness or opportunities (or sometimes regulatory blocks). More than likely they have a pipeline of attractions planned for properties which can easily be moved to other properties when needed.
That’s an interesting chart that really shows the neglect great adventure had compared to other flagships in the chain. The suits at Six flags clearly thought (mistakenly) that the high yearly attendance would continue without investment. But not sure we can use that to predict the future since the leadership is more cedar fair than six flags at this point. Wonder how this stacks up to Carowinds or Kings Dominion during their expansion eras, and if we might be seeing investment more along the lines of those parks if this addition is successful.
Management (corporate and park level) had to deal with bad decisions made by long gone owners and managers. More was spent on the park in 2005-2006 than was spent over 10 years in most parks, and both of those investments had lingering costs that weighed on the park. Yes, other parks got "more", but many of those were cheap in comparison to the costs of Kingda Ka/Golden Kingdom/El Toro/Plaza del Carnavale. And that's not counting all the money spent on the hotel that was never built among other black holes they threw money into with no return on investment. So yes, Great America and Magic Mountain got "more" with TDK, Little Dipper, X-Flight, Goliath, Joker, Maxx Force, Wrath of Rakshasa, Apocolypse, RR Express, GL First Flight, Full Throttle, SG Hot Rod Racers, Twisted Colossus, West Coast Racers, and WW Flight of Courage, but Great Adventure spent more than all those combined.
 
You cannot say anything from the past history of additions has any bearing on future additions. We're talking about a completely different company now and there are so many variables at play at the moment.
Notice how I hedged by saying "if history is any indicator." To act like the Six Flags way and the people who developed it are completely dead and gone is hilarious, and if your reading of an objective timeline I provided is to look at it, deny its applicability, and make excuses, that should tell you something about your own expectations for the park.
Management (corporate and park level) had to deal with bad decisions made by long gone owners and managers. More was spent on the park in 2005-2006 than was spent over 10 years in most parks, and both of those investments had lingering costs that weighed on the park. Yes, other parks got "more", but many of those were cheap in comparison to the costs of Kingda Ka/Golden Kingdom/El Toro/Plaza del Carnavale. And that's not counting all the money spent on the hotel that was never built among other black holes they threw money into with no return on investment. So yes, Great America and Magic Mountain got "more" with TDK, Little Dipper, X-Flight, Goliath, Joker, Maxx Force, Wrath of Rakshasa, Apocolypse, RR Express, GL First Flight, Full Throttle, SG Hot Rod Racers, Twisted Colossus, West Coast Racers, and WW Flight of Courage, but Great Adventure spent more than all those combined.
And what does this mean to the everyday visitor? Nothing. If the parks were given equal funding and Great Adventure squandered theirs for a worse customer experience with a shorter lifespan, that would reflect poorly even if guests did know that context. And for locals who do have that context, why is it so frowned upon to believe that given this rare opportunity to build a coaster, they're fumbling it by reusing the exact same stalling shuttle gimmick they installed last year?
 
reusing the exact same stalling shuttle gimmick they installed last year?

Concepts show a first-of-its-kind, launched, inverted stall, not the "same stalling shuttle gimmick they installed last year."

Flash was a garbage addition to Great Adventure. Many of us happily agree with that. I would be happy to see it disassembled and shipped to another, smaller park where its capacity would make sense and where it could be a stand-out addition. Is the strata shuttle spinner somewhat duplicative with Flash? Yes. I don't know why we condemn the insane-looking, custom layout spinning strata for that similarity rather than the off-the-shelf, shipped-in-at-the-last-minute-from-another-park, single-train shuttle they half-heartedly plopped next to the park entrance.

Flash is barely a footnote in SFGAdv's lineup. This new coaster is going to be an icon of the park for (hopefully) decades to come.
 
Concepts show a first-of-its-kind, launched, inverted stall, not the "same stalling shuttle gimmick they installed last year."

Flash was a garbage addition to Great Adventure. Many of us happily agree with that. I would be happy to see it disassembled and shipped to another, smaller park where its capacity would make sense and where it could be a stand-out addition. Is the strata shuttle spinner somewhat duplicative with Flash? Yes. I don't know why we condemn the insane-looking, custom layout spinning strata for that similarity rather than the off-the-shelf, shipped-in-at-the-last-minute-from-another-park, single-train shuttle they half-heartedly plopped next to the park entrance.

Flash is barely a footnote in SFGAdv's lineup. This new coaster is going to be an icon of the park for (hopefully) decades to come.
I condemn them both, but there's no reason to duplicate a mistake, and it's clear that ride removals at Great Adventure are not expected to have replacements now, so I'd rather not see it go either.

No part about this new coaster is a first. Every "record" it will have will be contingent it being the superlative spinning coaster in any given category. It's also not innovative to put launches on the underside of coaster track. Volcano existed, and some Intamin impulses still do.
 
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