If this is the same specialized part that has failed in the past I’m ready to pull out my soapbox or they should have multiple on hand of a part they know fails often.
Project 2025/305: Pantherian (Intimidator 305 Retheme)
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It is definitely a super specialized part of a historically highly problematic system. I definitely think that parks should be stocking a backup for essential, issue-prone parts like this, but unfortunately not just this industry but honestly the corporate world broadly seems to have turned hard into an unwillingness to hold any "excess" stock of any kind on hand. Definitely a practice that has really hurt this industry in my opinion.
It kinda sucks because end of the day Pantherian being down likely doesn’t impact attendance, so the cost of constantly keeping one (or multiple) in stock doesn’t make financial sense to them. And given it’s a rare/defunct lift system it doesn’t make sense to make sure someone in the US has tooling.
I wonder if they would be open to alternative solutions that doesn’t include the current cable hydraulic lift system.
Why can't we get LSM lifts like Maverick? Has Mavs lift been an issue since opening?
Jesus Christ, an LSM lift would be GODLY! Turn I305 into the next Lightning rod and take off the trim on the last hill
I don't mean any sort of launch at all. Keep it's same lift speed but just use LSMs to do that vs a cable
Would it be more reliable? And plus, I thought CF hated intamin, so I doubt they'd do that.
It doesn't have to be intamins LSMs. Top thrill 2 has them from another company. B&M has theirs. Zierer has LSMs on Verbolten.Would it be more reliable? And plus, I thought CF hated intamin, so I doubt they'd do that.
Im sure i305s lift isint deaigned and built right to house all the LSMs cords and shit but in 2025 im sure theres a way
An LSM lift—even if technically possible (unknown)—would be horrendously impractical, extraordinarily costly, and just generally more problematic than the current solution.
Let’s turn a coaster that already has grey out moments (post original design) back to blackout capabilities with lsms launching it. I’m all for launches but this would be insane on a ride of the caliber of i305 (pantherian).
We need a theme park called Thoosieland where something like this could exist… As well as an exa coaster, a giga RMC, and a drop tower connected to said exa coaster.
Thats implying a lift like Mavericks is a problem though. Is it? It might be upfront expensive but if it keeps the ride open then that beats where we are right now with Pantherian being a lawn ornament for a whole season. This happened just a few years ago too didn't it?
Also @Griffonboy i never said launch it
I am sure they could get Zamperla to give them a good deal on a conversion.
I'm not a Cedar Point guy—I can't speak to the reliability of Maverick's LSM lift—but for Pantherian you'd be talking about a dramatically longer, dramatically more powerful, and dramatically more complicated system. It certainly would not make Pantherian more reliable.
Granted, I’ve only ever been there for a collective 4 days, but Millennium Force went down far more than Maverick during both trips. That said, there’s certainly a difference between a 105ft LSM lift and a 305ft LSM lift, I think it’s bound to be an unreliable system either way.
OMG it's unreliable enough now you want to turn it into the next Lightning Rod!
(incidentally I found the LSM lifts on Maverick and LR very disappointing and '305 may go over the top faster than Mav)
A LSM lift hill would require some sort of run out prior to the lift hill. I doubt they would want to go through moving the station to make that possible.
Counterpoint on the whole LSM thing, could they use LSMs to spool a pulley enough to replace the hydraulics on the cable lift?
For guests planning a trip, a closed major ride is worse than it never existing. I would have gone to Kennywood by now but Curtain kept breaking down, LR delayed my Dollywood trip a year, etc. KD hasn't been that crowded for having a new coaster. Surely most of us have waited, or heard of someone waiting for everything to be open somewhere.
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