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Given the way the young person that did mine, I think it’s someone young that thinks it’s funny. I think this is the unfortunate side effect of the current work environment. Got it at SFA too. The local Giant and fast food restaurants have been terrible with slow service.
I didn't get that vibe what so ever off of the guy today. I am not sure if he was just overly cautious and felt that yanking up as hard as possible was the only way to check the restraint or if he was just taught wrong but I dected no callousness in his actions.
 
Exactly the feeling i’ve gotten at Pantheon lately.
I really don't understand why some employees at Pantheon seem determined to try and get the sensor to show red.

Given the way the young person that did mine, I think it’s someone young that thinks it’s funny. I think this is the unfortunate side effect of the current work environment. Got it at SFA too. The local Giant and fast food restaurants have been terrible with slow service.
 
Planning my first trip of the season to BG. Rider of size here. The only ride I’ve come across that I can’t comfortably ride is Invadr. The ride ops have “stapled” me in before but it comes with a very uncomfortable ride. On Alpie and Griffon I have to sit in the expanded seats. No issues with Apollo, Nessie, or Verbolten. Haven’t been on Tempesto in forever just because I don’t enjoy it. What are other riders of size opinions? Do they have a seat set up at the beginning of the queue to check ahead of time?
 
Planning my first trip of the season to BG. Rider of size here. The only ride I’ve come across that I can’t comfortably ride is Invadr. The ride ops have “stapled” me in before but it comes with a very uncomfortable ride. On Alpie and Griffon I have to sit in the expanded seats. No issues with Apollo, Nessie, or Verbolten. Haven’t been on Tempesto in forever just because I don’t enjoy it. What are other riders of size opinions? Do they have a seat set up at the beginning of the queue to check ahead of time?
They have one setup across from the teacups before you cross the bridge but given the current sensor inconsistencies it's not necessarily going to reflect the situation with the actual seats. If I had to guess my guess would br that you won't fit based on me fitting fairly easily on Invadr and getting walk about 20% of the time on Pantheon but you might fit. My experience is that the front of the trains seem to be easier to get green on then the back for some reason.
 
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for any bigger riders trying to ride pantheon, sit in row 9, the verify is higher there for some reason.
 
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Visited for the first time this ride wasn’t SBNO and it broke down both times we were in line, the second time for the rest of the day as far as I could tell since it involved an evac. Rather disappointing and seems to have signs of Hypersonic 2.0 if that’s the way it’s going. Maybe BGW could take cues from its neighbor to the north and work with reliable manufacturers such as RMC or S&S.

Luckily there are two more launch/fast switch rides coming, so maybe one of them will be working on any given day or in 10 years we can look forward to actually reliable rides being sourced.

That said, the rest of the park was well staffed and running well, sans the queue disaster that is guest services. Food and wine was solid and the park was running noticeably better than last year.
 
I'm curious what the reliability rate will look like in a few years when supposedly the opening year kinks are worked out.

The thing is, there's no other ride currently like it with the same technical elements - closest you get is Hagrid's, but that has so many other quirks in operations plus a very expensive team on hand to sort it out, so it's not really a comparison. VC is similar, but doesn't have a fast track switch or swing launch.
 
I don't think we need to catastrophize Pantheons reliability at this point. Since it opened I have not gone to the park with it closed for the entire day in my 7 BGW visits so far this season. It goes down for wind a bit but that's just how the sensors work.
 
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I don't think we need to catastrophize Pantheons reliability at this point. Since it opened I have not gone to the park with it closed for the entire day in my 7 BGW visits so far this season. It goes down for wind a bit but that's just how the sensors work.
This is fine if BGW wants to market this ride to locals only who won’t be off put if it’s only available for part of any given day. However if they want to have wide market appeal and get people to travel there for Pantheon, it needs to have solid uptime. If it gets a reputation as a lemon, no one who sees that will bother with a trip.
 
I feel like the average guest could make that argument if they went in 2021. Most people I talked to about Pantheon tried to convince me it wasn't open yet because it was "unsafe." Either way I don't feel like I see a lot of reports of it being down for entire days or or hours and hours at a time so far and that latter maybe came up once so far? If the wind alarm gets hit I mean I don't know what they could do except get Intamin to make some kind of adjustment.
 
This is fine if BGW wants to market this ride to locals only who won’t be off put if it’s only available for part of any given day. However if they want to have wide market appeal and get people to travel there for Pantheon, it needs to have solid uptime. If it gets a reputation as a lemon, no one who sees that will bother with a trip.
This community's relationship with Intamin is incredibly perplexing to me but I don't feel like getting into that too deeply right now. What I will say is that I know of no other Intamin coaster that has had the level of issues that Pantheon has seemingly had and after my trip last month I am even more convinced that a lot of this is on BGW. Intamin coasters have opening teething issues -- there is no denying that -- but in this case I think the issues and downtime are drastically being magnified by people who are using an issue as an excuse not to work and then having no ambition to actually open the ride when the problem is actually fixed. This is compounded by a park that is CLEARLY short staffed and, on many occasions, has multiple rides down in which a small group of mechanics are trying to repair everything at the same time and, more than likely, aren't even being thorough when they are working on an issue.

To your point though, you aren't wrong.... but these are things that BGW needs to resolve -- especially in the way they handle situations. If you put various other coasters in place of Pantheon there is a good chance the outcome would be nearly the same.

And RMC? It's unreal that you are using Twisted Timbers as a poster child for reliable openings while both it, and SteVe, were absolute disasters in the beginning.
 
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If this is a BGW ride oops issue or a BGW maintenance issue right now they have the excuse of weather to blame downtime on. Darkcoaster is all inside so they better figure it out soon!
 
This community's relationship with Intamin is incredibly perplexing to me but I don't feel like getting into that too deeply right now. What I will say is that I know of no other Intamin coaster that has had the level of issues that Pantheon has seemingly had and after my trip last month I am even more convinced that a lot of this is on BGW. Intamin coasters have opening teething issues -- there is no denying that -- but in this case I think the issues and downtime are drastically being magnified by people who are using an issue as an excuse not to work and then having no ambition to actually open the ride when the problem is actually fixed. This is compounded by a park that is CLEARLY short staffed and, on many occasions, has multiple rides down in which a small group of mechanics are trying to repair everything at the same time and, more than likely, aren't even being thorough when they are working on an issue.

To your point though, you aren't wrong.... but these are things that BGW needs to resolve -- especially in the way they handle situations. If you put various other coasters in place of Pantheon there is a good chance the outcome would be nearly the same.

And RMC? It's unreal that you are using Twisted Timbers as a poster child for reliable openings while both it, and SteVe, were absolute disasters in the beginning.
In all fairness when Top Thrill Dragster opened it took awhile (years) to get it working somewhat reliably. Same with Maverick and the Harry Potter coaster (only took a few months for these). Intamin is known for pushing the envelope and as a result it takes some time to get the bugs out. I expect some issues when a new coaster opens up in the first season with the exception of B&M coasters. Probably what you're saying has some truth to it as well. I don't think the testing before it opened was sufficient either. It's not until you start running a full schedule with riders will you start to discover issues with the ride. I'll also say it's been noted in this forum that they slow the coaster down during operation and I wonder if that's the cause of the wind issue they're concerned about.
 
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This community's relationship with Intamin is incredibly perplexing to me but I don't feel like getting into that too deeply right now. What I will say is that I know of no other Intamin coaster that has had the level of issues that Pantheon has seemingly had and after my trip last month I am even more convinced that a lot of this is on BGW. Intamin coasters have opening teething issues -- there is no denying that -- but in this case I think the issues and downtime are drastically being magnified by people who are using an issue as an excuse not to work and then having no ambition to actually open the ride when the problem is actually fixed. This is compounded by a park that is CLEARLY short staffed and, on many occasions, has multiple rides down in which a small group of mechanics are trying to repair everything at the same time and, more than likely, aren't even being thorough when they are working on an issue.

To your point though, you aren't wrong.... but these are things that BGW needs to resolve -- especially in the way they handle situations. If you put various other coasters in place of Pantheon there is a good chance the outcome would be nearly the same.

And RMC? It's unreal that you are using Twisted Timbers as a poster child for reliable openings while both it, and SteVe, were absolute disasters in the beginning.
The RMC note was a joke, though it shows the difference between levels of unreliable where Twisted Timbers level reliability would be a significant improvement.
 
In all fairness when Top Thrill Dragster opened it took awhile (years) to get it working somewhat reliably. Same with Maverick and the Harry Potter coaster (only took a few months for these). Intamin is known for pushing the envelope and as a result it takes some time to get the bugs out. I expect some issues when a new coaster opens up in the first season with the exception of B&M coasters. Probably what you're saying has some truth to it as well. I don't think the testing before it opened was sufficient either. It's not until you start running a full schedule with riders will you start to discover issues with the ride. I'll also say it's been noted in this forum that they slow the coaster down during operation and I wonder if that's the cause of the wind issue they're concerned about.
Those coasters absolutely had issues but, at the same time, the coasters operated more than what it seems Pantheon operates right now -- at least from what I've seen. TTD may be closer to the level of downtime as Pantheon but I still feel like Pantheon is still extreme even considering the Intamin teething issues. I really agree with you about the testing -- this ride should have been able to be tested far more than any other ride because of the amount of time it sat unopened -- but I still also feel that that time where the ride just sat didn't help the current situation. My point here really is that I think this is Intamin teething combined with some really terrible BGW maintenance/operations/management that are creating this situation. People putting the blame squarely on Intamin is more likely unfair.
 
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