Project 2022: Pantheon
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Those are retractable brake fins. There's a mechanism under each them that will allow them to do so.
"Hey, we gotta theme Pantheon. Any ideas?"
"What's it's supposed to be?"
"Ah... Roman...Greek...something like that."
"Hmmm. Roman, huh?"
"Hey, I have an idea. Take a few things out of Rapids. You could probably grab a few columns, a statue or two and not one will be the wiser!"
Not to blatantly contradict you, but why would they be retractable brake fins? LSMs can be used for braking too, and the only reason they would need to be used as brakes in that area would be as a safety mechanism if the switch track didn't move into place properly during the launch. I would really doubt they would add another moving part that could potentially fail, as a fail-safe. I'm pretty sure those are just the LSM fins (maybe just without the casing installed?).
Sound of Volcano’s LIMs > LSMs
You know us so well! Stators are coated in some sort of insulating plastic and its usually white. Bare copper means they are brakes only. You wouldn't want to have live 480V where it can come in contact with grounded metal.
Intamin still uses copper brake fins for some reason in addition to the LSM's on a lot of their rides. They are fail-safe, being normally up and don't require any power to work. My guess as to why there are so many is that they calculated that the LSM's alone would not be enough to stop the train in case of e-stop, so they added the fins.
Those are definitely brake fins. I305 has the exact same ones.
Are we sure that’s a picture of the launch?
Yikes. I didn't mean to start an a̶r̶g̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ LSM learning session. I was just trying to determine what they meant by "launch hill".
But, for you LSM pros, since it appears the last section of the launch straightaway hasn't been installed, I assume they're waiting to install the LSM circuit once the track is up?
But, for you LSM pros, since it appears the last section of the launch straightaway hasn't been installed, I assume they're waiting to install the LSM circuit once the track is up?
Ah, that makes sense. They definitely didn't look like LSMs to me, which is why I was confused (but I also don't know that much about the electronics). But that would make sense to have more than enough fail-safes.
I believe it is, based on Zachary's aerial photos:
I didn't think you were! I actually started busting up laughing when I saw this and had to try to convince my coworkers that I was actually working and not spending too much time on unrelated websites. ?
That would not surprise me. They are expensive and you wouldn't want to accidentally damage one by running equipment into it.
Yeah the launch fins as seen on the first launch look very different than what’s in this picture. I agree those are brake fins and I’m surprised the launch fins don’t seem to extend the length of that section between the spike and tophat. Thus I’m curious to see the set up when they finish installing everything, since obviously it’ll need space to accelerate to high speed.
For reference, it seems the LSMs on the second stretch of launch (read: after the first roll and 2 hops) currently only cover the first dip. More will he added surely as that’s a really small section of track, but where exactly is the question. Maybe they’ll also be added on the drop side of the “launch hill” or something? We shall see!
For reference, it seems the LSMs on the second stretch of launch (read: after the first roll and 2 hops) currently only cover the first dip. More will he added surely as that’s a really small section of track, but where exactly is the question. Maybe they’ll also be added on the drop side of the “launch hill” or something? We shall see!
For what it's worth, here's a portion of Taron's launch track -
Well I'm very glad to hear that there will be themeing of any kind. I don't care if it's for the entry plaza and line, it's nice that they are doing that period.
I didn't see it mentioned here.
But in the last part of the QA they said they'll typically get within 10 feet of the top of the spike (dependant on train load).
But in the last part of the QA they said they'll typically get within 10 feet of the top of the spike (dependant on train load).
Hopefully that bodes well for 2021. Would be awesome if it came that close every time
Beats me. It was a posted still. ? However, I just did a couple of screen grabs of off-rides (below) and it appears to go about the same on 3 different runs. The middle of the train even with that track connection. I stopped both at the apex.
Just asked an industry friend about this and he said Eddy current brakes need a non-magnetic but conductive metal to work, so it's either copper or aluminum. The older Intamin mega coasters like the Superman coasters at SFA, SFDL and SFNE, and Millennium Force use aluminum brakes on the side of the trains.
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