It's been there since before the park was built. Nessi was built with a modified support structure to allow it to pass over the pipeline without issue.
Project 2019: Finnegan's Flyer (S&S Screamin' Swing)
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I'm not a pipeline expert, but I think it was mostly done by the mid-1960s.
Recent enforcement aside, I think the @super7's point is you can now see the right of way. The trees had screened it very well. The train trestle also has trees to screen the view of the pipeline. All the more reason to "maintain" the ROW with whatever low-intrusiveness landscaping is allowed.
edit: I haven't seen the landscaping plans or tried to figure out how much room they will have... but meethinks if there's a way to plant a line of screening trees between Finnegan and the ROW, they will do it. From a landscaping perspective, trees are almost like flowers now-a-days. I definitely can see them dropping fairly mature trees in strategic locations in a balance of cost with making the area seem "established..."
Recent enforcement aside, I think the @super7's point is you can now see the right of way. The trees had screened it very well. The train trestle also has trees to screen the view of the pipeline. All the more reason to "maintain" the ROW with whatever low-intrusiveness landscaping is allowed.
edit: I haven't seen the landscaping plans or tried to figure out how much room they will have... but meethinks if there's a way to plant a line of screening trees between Finnegan and the ROW, they will do it. From a landscaping perspective, trees are almost like flowers now-a-days. I definitely can see them dropping fairly mature trees in strategic locations in a balance of cost with making the area seem "established..."
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While I wish they did more to screen it the clearing is actually quite visible from both the train and the area right in front of Nessie as well as a number of other locations around the park I don't see this as a significant issue. I imagine that once thebnwork is done it will be less visiblem
Good question. Admittedly, I didn't actually look at where that pipe was going...
Hopefully someone else can get an answer?
Kind of. Pumping water from the tributary of Grove Creek further downstream (towards the "Rhine River") around the construction access to the site, in accordance with the approved erosion control & storm water management plans required for the RPA waiver. Well, at least "my informed guess" from the pictures and the plan documentation...
You'll see in the bottom of the 4th picture (with the pump) the timber matting used to stabilize the creek as a crossing for the construction equipment. They're basically pumping the water around it so there's less at the crossing site, while trapping sediments and water upstream with a diversion dike. That also dewaters the area upstream if there's any excavation required there.
All sausage making. The slopes will be revegetated and stabilized, and the stream bed restored as before, once the construction is complete. Note that there's always been an existing, permanent dam just north of Hastings Bridge to create an artificial pond with a fountain, but this approach is less of an impact and is designed to minimize soil erosion.
The pump intake can clearly be seen entering the water and the pickup in the tan colored muddy water. The discharge can be seen headed toward the Rhine. In most realms that is a enviromental no no unless it goes into a filter bag that can not be seen in the photos. In otherwords....BGW says they are enviromentally concious but are harming the wildlife...ie fish and turtles with silt laden water.
...and where. That's the reason why I mentioned the upstream dam, as I expected someone would inquire about the diversion and impact to "fish swimming upstream." It's a small tributary, that's already dammed upstream, that discharges to a manmade body of water that is itself dammed and essentially a giant stormwater management pond created for aesthetic reasons. Like @warfelg, I can't see the pump inlet or egress, so I can't comment on that. It appears the other specified and best practices measures are being properly implemented.
I see nothing in these pictures that causes me concern for environment or "wildlife," nor do I see anything that I believe would cause regulatory bodies concern (caveated that I have some, but limited, direct experience in these areas).
Impact, sure. But mitigated, and viewed within context of the size & location of the waterway, and the tradeoff to the property owner and broader community of the benefit versus the impact of creating the property improvement. Only way to avoid impact completely is to not build.
I see nothing in these pictures that causes me concern for environment or "wildlife," nor do I see anything that I believe would cause regulatory bodies concern (caveated that I have some, but limited, direct experience in these areas).
Impact, sure. But mitigated, and viewed within context of the size & location of the waterway, and the tradeoff to the property owner and broader community of the benefit versus the impact of creating the property improvement. Only way to avoid impact completely is to not build.
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And we got to talking about water systems why? Can we stay on topic about the ride please? If we’re gonna talk about how the ride is being built and power and water, we need another forum for that.
It’s a project thread, dewatering and tree removal are part of the project. Otherwise, I’m not sure what else there is to talk about until it opens.
Even if your complaints about discussing the power and water were warranted, I'm sure if someone had information more pertaining to the ride itself they would go ahead and mention it. Nobody is sitting here waiting for a discussion to end to bring up new information.
This was a construction picture that prompted a member's concern about how the approved erosion control plan was being implemented in a resource protection area buffer, which prompted an admin's question about adding to the discussion...
To @whanna's point, it is a project thread. With the park's maintenance of its "most beautiful park" status, secondary mission of protecting wildlife, and what IMHO "appears" to be a fairly educated user base on average (I don't know any of you IRL), it's also natural to expect that such threads would involve a greater depth of discussion than "how high will the swing go" and "when's it open?" Power distribution and hydrology are relevant to the project, and also inform options for future development...
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Hopefully, I’ll be able to see the construction site at Christmas Town.
went on the skyride on sunday. saw that they did a lot of digging, the river was now two separate ponds.
This is your friendly 11/30 construction update for anyone currious sbout the progress.
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