Project 2017: InvadR
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RE: Project 2017
Yeah I was being sarcastic at first but holy shit about Volcano. I'm glad BGW is concerned so much about their guests safety.. I remembered the I305 stuff very clearly and even some recent Volcano issues but I have never heard about the Volcano test dummies.. Any links to that info?
Bring Back Questor 87 said:
Yeah I was being sarcastic at first but holy shit about Volcano. I'm glad BGW is concerned so much about their guests safety.. I remembered the I305 stuff very clearly and even some recent Volcano issues but I have never heard about the Volcano test dummies.. Any links to that info?
RE: Project 2017
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RE: Project 2017
I had no idea B&M makes a family coaster described as "above or below the track." Has anyone seen this before? In the off chance we did get a custom version, I doubt it'd be inverted like Alpie, but I'd be interested to see the non-inverted configuration. Also their new website is gorgeous.
http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/product/family-coaster
I had no idea B&M makes a family coaster described as "above or below the track." Has anyone seen this before? In the off chance we did get a custom version, I doubt it'd be inverted like Alpie, but I'd be interested to see the non-inverted configuration. Also their new website is gorgeous.
http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/product/family-coaster
RE: Project 2017
There really isn't enough track to justify two lifts. The layout is just too short, and there isn't really any place in the layout for it. I think we can rule out a second lift.
As for the max height; not only do the plans specify attraction height at 60ft, but the balloon test they did was also estimated to be a max 60ft (as per http://bgwfans.com/2014/line-of-sight-test/)
Speaking of the balloon test, no one has pointed out that the test occurred in the southern most tip of the project area. Could one conclude that this is where the highest point of the attraction would be? Now, a lift would not climax at the other end of the layout from the station, and certainly not a 60 ft lift. Talk about a boring ride!
Now, a launch coaster..... that can certainly have its max height far from the station. As for the problems you suggest with the layout for a launch coaster; what if the coaster runs in the reverse direction you have it? It could come out of the station going south, make a sharp turn left, and then launch parallel to the RR track, and out of the launch, a sharp left hugging Le Scoot. Then, on the way back to the station, it could have it's final hills match the RR, queue, and flume as needed, before returning to the station.
Fur Dozy said:
There really isn't enough track to justify two lifts. The layout is just too short, and there isn't really any place in the layout for it. I think we can rule out a second lift.
As for the max height; not only do the plans specify attraction height at 60ft, but the balloon test they did was also estimated to be a max 60ft (as per http://bgwfans.com/2014/line-of-sight-test/)
Speaking of the balloon test, no one has pointed out that the test occurred in the southern most tip of the project area. Could one conclude that this is where the highest point of the attraction would be? Now, a lift would not climax at the other end of the layout from the station, and certainly not a 60 ft lift. Talk about a boring ride!
Now, a launch coaster..... that can certainly have its max height far from the station. As for the problems you suggest with the layout for a launch coaster; what if the coaster runs in the reverse direction you have it? It could come out of the station going south, make a sharp turn left, and then launch parallel to the RR track, and out of the launch, a sharp left hugging Le Scoot. Then, on the way back to the station, it could have it's final hills match the RR, queue, and flume as needed, before returning to the station.
RE: Project 2017
a launch track that's like 60 feet long? lulz. that would be like the silly little first launch on cheetah hunt. even the pony express launch track at knotts is twice as long as that! you guys are trying real hard to fit a square peg in a round hole
PrincessArlenasDad said:
a launch track that's like 60 feet long? lulz. that would be like the silly little first launch on cheetah hunt. even the pony express launch track at knotts is twice as long as that! you guys are trying real hard to fit a square peg in a round hole
RE: Project 2017
He means the long straight portion after the curves.
Still, something like manta @ SD is too similar to verbolten. I'm saying double lift spinner of flyer for now.
As far as the whole momentum thing, That's what I found from testing in NoLimits. Worth noting that CC has two lifts and is about the same length.
ApolloSeat33 said:
He means the long straight portion after the curves.
Still, something like manta @ SD is too similar to verbolten. I'm saying double lift spinner of flyer for now.
As far as the whole momentum thing, That's what I found from testing in NoLimits. Worth noting that CC has two lifts and is about the same length.
RE: Project 2017
No. Trying to list all possibilities. My post is a direct response to assertion that single 60 ft lift isn't sufficient for length of track and heights needed to clear RR, queue, and flume. If that is true, then launch is the only possibility, given can't have 2 lifts, and can't have lift > 60 ft.
ApolloSeat33 said:
No. Trying to list all possibilities. My post is a direct response to assertion that single 60 ft lift isn't sufficient for length of track and heights needed to clear RR, queue, and flume. If that is true, then launch is the only possibility, given can't have 2 lifts, and can't have lift > 60 ft.
RE: Project 2017
Remember those unreadable pages in the park's version of their 2017 site plans?
Lets remedy that.
Below you will find two incredibly large Project 2017 site plans that lack Busch Gardens Williamsburg's watermark entirely. The first page contains the site plan for the entire project. The second is the incredibly detailed "Layout and Materials Plan" for the station-area of the new attraction. All of the text in both documents should be completely legible. This is especially important for the materials plan as it gives us a lot of new information for what the area will look like come 2017. Enjoy the plans!
Remember those unreadable pages in the park's version of their 2017 site plans?
Lets remedy that.
Below you will find two incredibly large Project 2017 site plans that lack Busch Gardens Williamsburg's watermark entirely. The first page contains the site plan for the entire project. The second is the incredibly detailed "Layout and Materials Plan" for the station-area of the new attraction. All of the text in both documents should be completely legible. This is especially important for the materials plan as it gives us a lot of new information for what the area will look like come 2017. Enjoy the plans!
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RE: Project 2017
Yes, that exactly.
Pusheen will be in a lumberjack uniform holding a bottle of maple syrup and a chainsaw while sitting atop a giant moose. Every time one of the Zamboni-themed cars pass by, Pusheen's moose will say "Excuse me, sorry, eh?" The theming surrounding the coaster will include a closed Target store. The entry area will continuously play Céline Dion's, Avril Lavigne's, and Justin Bieber's greatest hits. The ride will be sponsored entirely by Tim Hortons© and free Tim Hortons© coffee will be available at the entrance. The opening ceremony will feature star players from all of the country's hockey and curling teams.
Called it!
Yes, that exactly.
Pusheen will be in a lumberjack uniform holding a bottle of maple syrup and a chainsaw while sitting atop a giant moose. Every time one of the Zamboni-themed cars pass by, Pusheen's moose will say "Excuse me, sorry, eh?" The theming surrounding the coaster will include a closed Target store. The entry area will continuously play Céline Dion's, Avril Lavigne's, and Justin Bieber's greatest hits. The ride will be sponsored entirely by Tim Hortons© and free Tim Hortons© coffee will be available at the entrance. The opening ceremony will feature star players from all of the country's hockey and curling teams.
Called it!
RE: Project 2017
That kind of sarcasm is not appropriate for a professional who's supposed to be in charge of a web site.
That kind of sarcasm is not appropriate for a professional who's supposed to be in charge of a web site.
RE: Project 2017
I don't think the station building is large enough for a flying coaster, so maybe that should be thrown out. It has to be small scale, compare the station building size to the size of the waiting area at the train station, about the same, eh? We can kind of rule out MOST ride types for this, and unless the second building has a queue area underneath (which it would have to in order to support a large scale ride) we won't be getting one.
Spinner.
I don't think the station building is large enough for a flying coaster, so maybe that should be thrown out. It has to be small scale, compare the station building size to the size of the waiting area at the train station, about the same, eh? We can kind of rule out MOST ride types for this, and unless the second building has a queue area underneath (which it would have to in order to support a large scale ride) we won't be getting one.
Spinner.
RE: Project 2017
I don't think a flyer is feasible seeing these plans close up. B&M's need a large space for a train house and MTX area, which is not depicted here, and the SQ footage of "Building 10" is about as large as Griffon's train house adjacent the brake run, which is fine for smaller trains, not larger ones (if building 10 is a car house or part of a station brake run). I am enthused and befuddled, but the closeups here are excellent for visualization of this ride and the aspects that are simply human factors, signage, and scenery.
I don't think a flyer is feasible seeing these plans close up. B&M's need a large space for a train house and MTX area, which is not depicted here, and the SQ footage of "Building 10" is about as large as Griffon's train house adjacent the brake run, which is fine for smaller trains, not larger ones (if building 10 is a car house or part of a station brake run). I am enthused and befuddled, but the closeups here are excellent for visualization of this ride and the aspects that are simply human factors, signage, and scenery.
RE: Project 2017
If you could point out on the plans where a second lift would fit, I'd agree that 2 lifts are more likely than a launch. And, not just in terms of physically locating it, but also enough elements after each lift to make it worth it.
And, I don't think 60ft is high enough for a flyer. That would be a hovercraft, not a flyer.
Fur Dozy said:
If you could point out on the plans where a second lift would fit, I'd agree that 2 lifts are more likely than a launch. And, not just in terms of physically locating it, but also enough elements after each lift to make it worth it.
And, I don't think 60ft is high enough for a flyer. That would be a hovercraft, not a flyer.
RE: Project 2017
Lift 2 could fit here. Just a wee 40ft lift would do.
And as far as the flying coaster's station, superman ultimate flight at SFGAdv has a very small station area. the given size of the station is quite large enough to accommodate. It is actually long enough to fit a 7 car flyer train.
I'm most interested in the B1-B9 markers. 30'? what do you all think those are?
Lift 2 could fit here. Just a wee 40ft lift would do.
And as far as the flying coaster's station, superman ultimate flight at SFGAdv has a very small station area. the given size of the station is quite large enough to accommodate. It is actually long enough to fit a 7 car flyer train.
I'm most interested in the B1-B9 markers. 30'? what do you all think those are?
