Project 2015: Tempesto
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metalman said:
How? I hope you're not trying to argue that a looping coaster with lap bars is unsafe.
See virtually every inverting Premier, including Tempesto's clones.
Also, I'm not even sure the comfort collars would help at all if something went wrong. They're hooked into the lab par like a car seat belt is.
I honestly just think it's so Tempesto doesn't make anyone uneasy about riding because of the lack of an OTSR... Why must the GP ruin everything...
I honestly just think it's so Tempesto doesn't make anyone uneasy about riding because of the lack of an OTSR... Why must the GP ruin everything...
The park ruined that, not the GP. Other parks don't have them...
BGW's GP tend to be...well sissys. That's me putting it delicately. That might have been put into consideration when insurance was purchased for this ride, or however it is done. During the annocment Larry said "we're going to strap you in...literally."
The BGW GP complains about severed heads at a HALLOWEEN event for Christ's sake.
Anyway, I digress.
The BGW GP complains about severed heads at a HALLOWEEN event for Christ's sake.
Anyway, I digress.
The vests aren't there for support. They're called comfort collars in order to make riders feel more secure. The lapbar still does most of the support
Give the middle car comfort collars OTSRs and remove them from all the other seats then. All the paranoid hypercondriacs that the park thinks exist can ride there.
Or, if they are afraid, they can sit outside and make the line shorter for those of us who aren't giant pussies.
Thomas is on fire with roasts. He deserves another one of these...
You think these "comfort collars" are partially because of what I call the "New Texas Giant Effect"?
Tragic accident causes ride insurance premiums to soar across the board.
Manufacturer offers an option that will potentially reduce rates and at the same time make the guests feel safer.
I just wonder if God forbid a mechanical failure of the lap bar would occur would the seat belt system hold everything together until the ride cycle was complete.
Theoretically it would have to maintain its structural integrity I would assume.
Just my thoughts
Tragic accident causes ride insurance premiums to soar across the board.
Manufacturer offers an option that will potentially reduce rates and at the same time make the guests feel safer.
I just wonder if God forbid a mechanical failure of the lap bar would occur would the seat belt system hold everything together until the ride cycle was complete.
Theoretically it would have to maintain its structural integrity I would assume.
Just my thoughts
1. The rider was killed on the New Texas Giant because she was not properly fastened from the start. It was human error, not mechanical error, that caused the rider's death.
2. Restraints don't just fly open. They didn't on New Texas Giant either. On ratcheting restraints it basically impossible.
3. Seat belts are there to make sure the restraint closes down enough in the first place. Not necessarily as a backup in case the restraints fail. Because they don't fail.
4. Virtually every other inverting Premier operates safely without overhead restraints.
2. Restraints don't just fly open. They didn't on New Texas Giant either. On ratcheting restraints it basically impossible.
3. Seat belts are there to make sure the restraint closes down enough in the first place. Not necessarily as a backup in case the restraints fail. Because they don't fail.
4. Virtually every other inverting Premier operates safely without overhead restraints.
The OSTRs aren't linked into the sensor system, so they don't have to be buckled for the train to run. Zachary's was flapping and not connected to anything when we launched from the station.
As a result, I wonder if they were an add-on and not part of Premier's design at all. In other words, I think the park demanded them, and that they aren't a normal option for the ride at all.
It also makes me question the utility of these harnesses as safety restraints. They seem almost entirely cosmetic. I'm not sure if they are there to appease insurance adjusters or guests. All I do know is that they make an already awkward loading process even more complicated.
As a result, I wonder if they were an add-on and not part of Premier's design at all. In other words, I think the park demanded them, and that they aren't a normal option for the ride at all.
It also makes me question the utility of these harnesses as safety restraints. They seem almost entirely cosmetic. I'm not sure if they are there to appease insurance adjusters or guests. All I do know is that they make an already awkward loading process even more complicated.
Following is my report from the "First to Ride" event Friday night.
7:56 PM There are about 150 guests in the Tempesto plaza. Rides in Festa are operating until 10 PM including Apollo. We have a card assigning us an 8:15 ride. A blue bracelet with two tabs labeled "1" and "2" are worn to show we can remain in the park. Tab 1 is torn off and turned in with the 8:15 ticket. 8:00 PM riders are released into the station queue. 8:15 riders are in the extended queue. Tab 2 is for a gift at the end of the night.
8:14 PM We are in the station queue queue. Park advertisements are played constantly. There is a long Food and Wine Festival infomercial.
8:21 PM Cool! Also an infomercial for the Coaster Tour! Meanwhile, the line for the front has advanced several feet in the past 15 minutes...
8:31 PM Someone should create a poll for what point in the park the line will reach. Standing here in line I imagine it crossing the bridge to Pompeii. Finally a ride op is making announcements to help move things along and steer people to the middle rows past the long line for the front row. I wonder what the park will do to handle the front row and quick queue when it is offered. There is no expanded coral for the front row.
8:58 PM I have been in line for one hour. Only 2 trains left before our first ride in the front row. Load times are averaging 1.5 minutes although it is 4 minutes occasionally. Fastest I've witnessed is 1 minute 9 seconds.
We ride a second time and in the back. The line is much shorter and many people have left. The queue leads guests under and around the ride which helps pass the time. I come to appreciate the advancement of LSM launch and braking and the amount of maintenance it must save. The final braking is also handled by the LSM system; the stops are precise.
Below is an image of the free gift. I guess our stuntman has changed his name from Diavolo. The park also has a DJ and is serving snacks and pizza from La Cucina. The Tempesto shop is also home to the 40th anniversary items and includes a nice collection of vintage tshirt designs including Big Bad Wolf.
7:56 PM There are about 150 guests in the Tempesto plaza. Rides in Festa are operating until 10 PM including Apollo. We have a card assigning us an 8:15 ride. A blue bracelet with two tabs labeled "1" and "2" are worn to show we can remain in the park. Tab 1 is torn off and turned in with the 8:15 ticket. 8:00 PM riders are released into the station queue. 8:15 riders are in the extended queue. Tab 2 is for a gift at the end of the night.
8:14 PM We are in the station queue queue. Park advertisements are played constantly. There is a long Food and Wine Festival infomercial.
8:21 PM Cool! Also an infomercial for the Coaster Tour! Meanwhile, the line for the front has advanced several feet in the past 15 minutes...
8:31 PM Someone should create a poll for what point in the park the line will reach. Standing here in line I imagine it crossing the bridge to Pompeii. Finally a ride op is making announcements to help move things along and steer people to the middle rows past the long line for the front row. I wonder what the park will do to handle the front row and quick queue when it is offered. There is no expanded coral for the front row.
8:58 PM I have been in line for one hour. Only 2 trains left before our first ride in the front row. Load times are averaging 1.5 minutes although it is 4 minutes occasionally. Fastest I've witnessed is 1 minute 9 seconds.
We ride a second time and in the back. The line is much shorter and many people have left. The queue leads guests under and around the ride which helps pass the time. I come to appreciate the advancement of LSM launch and braking and the amount of maintenance it must save. The final braking is also handled by the LSM system; the stops are precise.
Below is an image of the free gift. I guess our stuntman has changed his name from Diavolo. The park also has a DJ and is serving snacks and pizza from La Cucina. The Tempesto shop is also home to the 40th anniversary items and includes a nice collection of vintage tshirt designs including Big Bad Wolf.
GeoUSA said:
technically, anyone that was in the park was welcome to stay in festa until 10pm but only those with the bracelet could ride tempesto once.
I like the ride, but not enough to wait in line for an hour again. It was a clear night so seeing the moon and stars while riding was a nice bonus.
bgbackdoor said:
I had a feeling anyone was welcome to stay in Festa but that didn't stop a few employees in Festa from telling us they were closing. There was not a limit to the number of times Tempesto could be ridden, other than the long line.
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