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I think if it goes anywhere. It’ll go to Fun Spot Orlando
Concept Parting Out Fun Spot Atlanta & Rehoming ArieForce One
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I think if it goes anywhere. It’ll go to Fun Spot Orlando
I can’t imagine it would make more money from a tax write off than a relocation….
Whats the chance RMC has that kind of money?
Logistically, I mean, good luck with that. This is about the only orientation I could find that doesn't interact with power lines, let alone being adjusted for any terrain. It's a damn big ride.
This and this:
FSAA seems to be in at least $20,000,000 of debt. I'm sure the FL parks are doing better, but do we believe they're doing enough better to finance the deconstructed, relocation, reconstruction, and continued operation of a huge RMC?
Obviously, in hindsight, AF1 should have been built in Orlando—if it had been things probably would be going very differently right now—but I worry that ship has sailed if the current financial state of the company as rumored is to be believed. Hopefully I'm wrong, but
If the entirety of the property and everything on it was used as collateral for the renegotiated loan, what would the legality look like for Fun Spot to make a decision regarding ArieForce?
Wouldn’t that ultimately be up to Truist?
It’s very possible the decision is out of Fun Spots hands.
Wouldn’t that ultimately be up to Truist?
It’s very possible the decision is out of Fun Spots hands.
Constructing a ground-up RMC at their more profitable property would've been a home run - I have no idea why they threw this up at an FEC in a rural suburb of Atlanta.
It's incredibly unfortunate this thing is more likely than toast, and won't operate after August 2nd. Relocating AF1 sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for the park receiving it.
Throw it in Carowinds' thrill zone - NOW!
It's incredibly unfortunate this thing is more likely than toast, and won't operate after August 2nd. Relocating AF1 sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for the park receiving it.
Throw it in Carowinds' thrill zone - NOW!
Carowinds is in dire need of a new thrill coaster anyway. Even the local park people on the carowinds pages want an RMC. Thoosies already flood that place for fury, let alone if they got damn Airy. That would argubly be the best 2 punch rides in the country. For me atleast since fury dumps 305
Only way I can see it fitting is if you put the entrance where Drop Zone was, and have it run behind Hurler / into the Campground area.
No chance you fit that sucker there. I doubt you could even use Thrill Zone.
Given the nature of the ride - probably not going to happen for any park.
The problem with relocating this particular ride is its perfect L shape with the layout sprawling nearly 1,000 feet in both directions from the station. It's also arguably low to the ground pretty much everywhere except the lift and stall.
You'd have to have pretty much the same space constraints that Fun Spot had to build it. Some long stretch of land bordering the park, or plop it down in a parking lot somewhere.
Any park could use this ride, and I'd hate to see it close permanently. I wouldn't be surprised if it got relocated but I also wouldn't be surprised if it did close permanently. A used, large RMC Ibox ride though would be the way to go for some parks that have struggled to get the funding for one though, if it fits into their portfolio well.
You'd have to have pretty much the same space constraints that Fun Spot had to build it. Some long stretch of land bordering the park, or plop it down in a parking lot somewhere.
Any park could use this ride, and I'd hate to see it close permanently. I wouldn't be surprised if it got relocated but I also wouldn't be surprised if it did close permanently. A used, large RMC Ibox ride though would be the way to go for some parks that have struggled to get the funding for one though, if it fits into their portfolio well.
Space is a huge issue. This thing is way bigger than it seems and a very annoying shape. Holiday World likely can’t fit it based on my Google Maps fiddling. Kennywood is in the same boat. It’s an unwieldy layout.
The way I see it, here’s a short list of parks that could use it, have the means, and have the space:
- Great Adventure
- Carowinds
- King’s Island
- Dorney
- Adventureland IA
- Silverwood (honestly may be my pick)
- COTALand
Didn’t include any of the Enchanted Parks, as it feels like a big risk and they would lose in a bidding war. This feels like a Herschend or SF acquisition to me, with COTA as a dark horse. I know they’ve been looking into RMC.
The way I see it, here’s a short list of parks that could use it, have the means, and have the space:
- Great Adventure
- Carowinds
- King’s Island
- Dorney
- Adventureland IA
- Silverwood (honestly may be my pick)
- COTALand
Didn’t include any of the Enchanted Parks, as it feels like a big risk and they would lose in a bidding war. This feels like a Herschend or SF acquisition to me, with COTA as a dark horse. I know they’ve been looking into RMC.
You think there would be a bidding war over this coaster???
Not necessarily, I just think Enchanted won’t bite if nobody else does, or would be outmatched financially if everyone else wants it. Lose-lose for them. I’m also talking out of my ass so grain of salt
If RMC has the resources and no other buyer comes forward, RMC should absolutely buy this thing back in my opinion.
If it made sense for Zamperla to do it with Senzafiato/ThunderVolt, SURELY it makes sense for RMC to do it with their own coaster—especially when it's this new and it's the seventh best coaster in the world. Easy to imagine RMC being able to resell this thing at a big profit for themselves and at a big discount to a buyer. It would likely be way cheaper for RMC to even resell a modified AF1 with alterations to its 90° turn or final turnaround to accommodate a different site/different terrain than it would be to sell a park a fully custom design. Easy to imagine AF1 as a straight out-and-back, a double out-and-back, or anything in between while maintaining the vast majority of the existing track and structure (not to mention trains, controls, etc, etc). It's just impossible for me to imagine this not being an incredibly valuable asset—especially in the age of skyrocketing steel prices, tariff wars, tight budget, etc.
Of course, we've recently watched a certain park throw away a different enormous steel structure that I believed to be immensely valuable too, so maybe I just have no idea what I'm talking about?
If it made sense for Zamperla to do it with Senzafiato/ThunderVolt, SURELY it makes sense for RMC to do it with their own coaster—especially when it's this new and it's the seventh best coaster in the world. Easy to imagine RMC being able to resell this thing at a big profit for themselves and at a big discount to a buyer. It would likely be way cheaper for RMC to even resell a modified AF1 with alterations to its 90° turn or final turnaround to accommodate a different site/different terrain than it would be to sell a park a fully custom design. Easy to imagine AF1 as a straight out-and-back, a double out-and-back, or anything in between while maintaining the vast majority of the existing track and structure (not to mention trains, controls, etc, etc). It's just impossible for me to imagine this not being an incredibly valuable asset—especially in the age of skyrocketing steel prices, tariff wars, tight budget, etc.
Of course, we've recently watched a certain park throw away a different enormous steel structure that I believed to be immensely valuable too, so maybe I just have no idea what I'm talking about?
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But my thought is, if they used the whole park as collateral, would they have to pay off the debt or equivalent value of the ride to then be able to reclaim the ride?