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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

The adjustments, are barely, if aren't even noticeable to the average guests, the changes aren't really going to help.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I've heard that if they have the money that will happen, and if they don't, they might not even bring it back. Because even though the stage costs and set were taken care of already, the rest of the yearly costs, still cost a fortune, and it might not even be worth putting back.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

most of the tech is recyleable. From what I have seen the biggest expense is in the projection, lighting, and skrim.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I still maintain that LR isn't that bad a show. It isn't great, but it isn't Entwined, either. My biggest issues with it, personally, were the 4D effects and the Monty Python-esque lampooning of the Queen. I wonder what is leading to all of this hate? Maybe it is actually too sophisticated?
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I think people had really high expectations for it, because the park was making it out to be the best thing since sliced bread, and then they ended up seeing what it really is, and were beyond disappointed. Plus cast talent effects the GP's opinion a lot more than it does ours, and we all know LR doesn't have much of that.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

It's a very weird show, it takes a lot of artistic liberties that clearly confuses guests. I wouldn't quite call it sophisticated, but they added exposition in there for a reason.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Matthew said:
Plus cast talent effects the GP's opinion a lot more than it does ours, and we all know LR doesn't have much of that.

Cast talent is the core of my opinion of any show.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I think they overdid it. It SOUNDS like a simple show about Lucy falling in love with a classic rock soundtrack. But by adding, like, the entire second half of the show, the plot becomes big enough that the audience has to start figuring out who characters are, what their conflict is, etc. And it gets confusing. Adding the exposition was supposed to clear it up, but really, a simpler one-note plot would have gotten them a lot further. The park's best shows are straight forward with an emphasis on charismatic characters with strong singing talent.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I would argue, actually, that singing is currently the park's weak point. Their best shows, in my opinion, showcase strong dancers and musicians.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I have never seen the show, except for some clips on you tube, so frankly I am not free to express an opinion. I meant to say, and I apologise if I was not clear, that if they did chose to recyle the show for any reason, the sunk cost of the new hardware would not have to be a write off.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Nicole said:
I would argue, actually, that singing is currently the park's weak point.  Their best shows, in my opinion, showcase strong dancers and musicians.

It's funny, the singing was my favorite part of the show. I thought the actual production, particularly the puppet scene, was pretty weird, but I thought the singing was very strong and at some points phenominal. Maybe that's just me.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

You must have gotten the good cast. They have somewhat good voices, they're not amazing, but good. We've definitely seen way better talent than even what the good cast has. Both of the casts really butcher the songs though. They try to sing it in their own type of way, and they just end up ruining the song. The good cast doesn't butcher them as bad as the bad cast. My Mom, who used to have a career in singing, can't stand the show for this reason, and some others.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Currently the show is not using the same swing cast system as much. Both casts are often mixed up. Sometimes the cast refers to a switch up as the "Jello" cast. I think it makes everything harder on the performers, because over time they have all found a good chemistry. Now that chemistry is being messed around with. So now, some shows look more like dress rehearsals because not only are they constantly changing the cast arrangement, they are also changing the show itself. When the show first started, the cast had several directors to work with, which already caused enough confusion. Now, almost all of those directors have already moved on to other things. Right now, the cast is taking direction from their stage manager(s), Scott Gasparich, and his assistant. They are making many changes after each show, going around in circles, and the cast has very little time (if any) to rehearse. If it's possible in any way, Scott Gasparich should be desperately calling for backup. (Note; That does not mean hiring someone else and playing the "blame game" Entwined v1 style.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Pretzel Kaiser said:
It's a very weird show, it takes a lot of artistic liberties that clearly confuses guests.  I wouldn't quite call it sophisticated, but they added exposition in there for a reason.

There's a difference between sophistication and obtuseness. The problem is that they're attempting to do too much in too short a time and with too little talent on the part of the show's producers/writers.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

UnicornZiva said:
I think they overdid it.  It SOUNDS like a simple show about Lucy falling in love with a classic rock soundtrack.  But by adding, like, the entire second half of the show, the plot becomes big enough that the audience has to start figuring out who characters are, what their conflict is, etc.  And it gets confusing. Adding the exposition was supposed to clear it up, but really, a simpler one-note plot would have gotten them a lot further.  The park's best shows are straight forward with an emphasis on charismatic characters with strong singing talent.

This! At the core of a lot of the park's recent problems is heavy-handedness coupled with basic incompetence. Someone is trying to do too much with too little, and then dress the mess up and pretend it's SPECTACULAR!

Do you remember Charles Foster Kane forcing his untalented good-time girl turned second wife Susan to be an opera diva in "Citizen Kane"? Yeah, it's like that.
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

This show is excellent compared to the shows at KD. I visited both parks last week and have to say that LR and every other show at BGW is amazing. My wife and I were shocked at how awful the shows at KD are. Why even offer shows when they are worse than a high school production. LR is not perfect but it is very entertaining, which is the point of the show. You can tell a lot of money was spent on LR. True, the money could have been spent on more important things, but I was very impressed with how the show was put together. So glad I can count on BGW for great shows.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Obviously you didn't see 'All Wheel Sports' then. That show doesn't need money thrown at it to be awesome and it tops anything BGW has to offer for one reason in my book. Risks. I get excited when I see performers working in sync doing extremely dangerous maneuvers. There is nothing dangerous or death defying about London Rocks, or any other show at BG. This is only my opinion, and some people cannot handle the stress/tension of watching people do double backflips on a bike or dangle from a rope 40 feet in the air with no net. But that's no reason to say in a collective manner that 'the shows at KD are bad'...Being fair here, both parks have bad shows and good shows. (again, this is an opinion)
 
RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

ccfbman said:
This show is excellent compared to the shows at KD.  I visited both parks last week and have to say that LR and every other show at BGW is amazing.  My wife and I were shocked at how awful the shows at KD are.  Why even offer shows when they are worse than a high school production.

May I ask what shows you saw? The only shows I can even slightly see where you are coming from are Hit List and Ignite the Night. KD40 On Stage is very similar to London Rocks. All Wheel Sports, as Mazakman said, is great in its own sense. The clown band is wonderful and actually has many former BGW performers, because BGW treats their performers so poorly unlike KD. Don't take this as snark, I do appreciate hearing what people think about the park and I genuinely wish to know what shows you saw.

So glad I can count on BGW for great shows.

You must have never seen Killarney Kommotion, Wunderbarn, Entwined, etc. :p
 
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