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Nibbins said:
Was talking with an operator running Invadr about the missing Bear and Dragon front pieces last Saturday.

They told me that one of them is broken and that they won't be coming back.

I was hoping they would get put back on eventually.

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We are referring to the main decor at the entrance of Invadr right? I hope they add something there! I always thought those pieces were what made Invadr look so good in New France. Invadr may not be my favorite ride, but I always thought it looked nice visually.
 
ludmarco said:
We are referring to the main decor at the entrance of Invadr right? I hope they add something there! I always thought those pieces were what made Invadr look so good in New France. Invadr may not be my favorite ride, but I always thought it looked nice visually.
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No. The pieces on the front of the coaster train itself. Obviously, them falling off would be a hazard to riders behind them.
 
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horsesboy said:
From what I heard and read about the last time it came off it could have been VERY bad accept for dumb luck. while I was hoping that they might find a way to secure it more safely it doesn't really surprise me that they don't want to take the chance and that is actually probably the right call.
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This 110%.

Frankly, if I were BGW, I’d be FURIOUS with GCI over the train headpiece issue. The last incident—where it literally fell off mid-ride with guests onboard—could have been downright catastrophic. BGW was incredibly lucky that no one got hurt, that it didn’t damage the ride, and that it didn’t make it into the local media.

Assuming all the right maintenance was being done, BGW seems to be the victim here from my point of view. They bought a product that was supposed to be safe and reliable and the headpieces have just been reliably unsafe. I will forever miss the headpieces, but I think BGW is right to remove them—multiple attempts at fixing the issue have proven inadequate—and the cost of getting it wrong is potentially disastrous each time it happens.
 
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Zachary said:
This 110%.

Frankly, if I were BGW, I’d be FURIOUS with GCI over the train headpiece issue. The last incident—where it literally fell off mid-ride with guests onboard—could have been downright catastrophic. BGW was incredibly lucky that no one got hurt, that it didn’t damage the ride, and that it didn’t make it into the local media.

Assuming all the right maintenance was being done, BGW seems to be the victim here from my point of view. They bought a product that was supposed to be safe and reliable and the headpieces have just been reliably unsafe. I will forever miss the headpieces, but I think BGW is right to remove them—multiple attempts at fixing the issue have proven inadequate—and the cost of getting it wrong is potentially disastrous each time it happens.
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As much as I’m going to miss the Dragon I think it’s for the better. Safety is always the number 1 priority at large scale Amusement Parks like BGW.
 
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What I wouldn't give for 20 minutes with GCI engineering and BGW maintenance to learn about the head attachments' very specific failure modes.

Sometimes project engineering outfits give small, self-contained tasks to the newest engineer or an engineering intern, or otherwise rush the "small stuff." No idea if that was the case here, but it certainly seems like important considerations were missed. I doubt it's purely a maintenance issue...
 
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What I wouldn't give for 20 minutes with GCI engineering and BGW maintenance to learn about the head attachments' very specific failure modes.

Sometimes project engineering outfits give small, self-contained tasks to the newest engineer or an engineering intern, or otherwise rush the "small stuff." No idea if that was the case here, but it certainly seems like important considerations were missed. I doubt it's purely a maintenance issue...
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Correct me if I’m wrong but couldn’t the bolts holding it down vibrated so much they just vibrated off the train leaving 1-3 bolts holding it down? And then those 1-3 bolts failed because of the forces being applied to the head mount were too much?
 
Travis... said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but couldn’t the bolts holding it down vibrated so much they just vibrated off the train leaving 1-3 bolts holding it down? And then those 1-3 bolts failed because of the forces being applied to the head mount were too much?
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Could be that they backed off, could be that they fatigued and broke due to the repetitive force load/unload cycles associated with running hundreds of times per day, could be that the plate or other material holding the bolts deformed/failed and one or more bolts pulled clean through... also could be that idiot riders pushed and pulled the bear head a bunch of times and that phenomenon wasn't anticipated at design time, or somebody made a bad hardware choice that fell short of the design specs and led to any of the above failure modes (or others?)... Or it was actually a good system with an inspection/maintenance plan that wasn't followed, or... or...

Since I doubt a park that got Mach Tower to run would repeatedly fail to maintain a wooden bear head, I'll wager a nickel to prop up my profound ignorance on the root cause, and bet the mistake was made in an office building rather than in the "La Victoire!" shed.
 
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mtpelepele said:
I'm not surprised. Look at other coasters with decor pieces. The wheels on TTD, the rattler on Iron Rattler... these pieces have a habit of not staying on well.
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The original hotrod on the front of Lightning Rod's train too.
 
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