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Peej1212 said:
But anyway lol i just dont like the idea of people( no one in particular i have a few friends that went and complained about it) having a problem with things that make you uncomfortable in a haunted house. Yes that can make things slow in going and not an easy pass but isn't that the point? If these things were a walk in the park why would they go.
A house should be moving. It shouldn't be super easy, but it should maintain a certain pacing. The Claustrophobia thing always causes a backup. and idk about anyone else. but I know for me, once the house starts stacking and I'm just playing follow the leader, I really have no interest in the house. the atmosphere is gone, and now you're just in line hoping that the actor had enough time to reset or get ready of their next scare.

Plus, I really don't like the idea of walking through something that has been pressed closed to somebody else's body, I don't know where you people have been. >__>
 
I think its time for them to use an old scare from Tampa in that area. During the first year of HOS in Tampa, they had a house where you had to walk through a hallway sideways. You basically shuffled along a wall, while actors reached at you from behind a shorter, slanted wall of stretchy material. To make that even better, the ADA/alternate path was right next to the wall. The other side of the wall had doors with knockers on them. Naturally, when people see door knockers, they use them. So they did, and the park didn't have to pay any extra labor costs.

I learned that from Scott Swenson, their former creative director. I would love to see that here. You can adjust the settings on the claustrophobia airbags to give way more, but its still the biggest backup causer that I know of.
 
To key on what Applesauce said, I dislike the big balloon things, even though I have no fear and of tight spaces. I just think they are disgusting. Every time I go through one, the following questions go through my mind:

1. Does anyone ahead of me have lice?
2. How sweaty or wet was that guy who just went through?
3. Has anyone sneezed in here?
4. How often do other park guests bathe?

And for the record, no I am not a germophobe either, I just don't trust other people's hygiene.
 
Oh wow how dare a haunt maze have tight spaces. ;)

Haunt mazes are known to have tight hallways that make you feel claustrophobic. What makes the air bag room in Cornered any different? The fact that its causing small backups means its doing its job well (to make you feel uneasy, scared, grossed out, etc).

Its no different from walking through the disgusting hanging things the park likes to stick in all the mazes.

Hell, those roller coaster seats you're sitting in, those are covered with sweat, germs, BO, puke, blood, pee, water ride slime, and whatever else you could think of. Those restaurant seats you're sitting in, probably have 30 years of grease, food particles, pee, shit, sweat, cigarette ash and whatnot all over them. Those park benches are probably worse because I doubt anyone is going around the park actively disinfecting park benches outside.

All you've gotta do is wash your hands before you eat, shower when you get home, and don't touch your eyes or stick your hands in your mouth and you'll be good.

- Guys the air bags really aren't that bad. Like seriously.
- Could be worse. Some haunts force you to get down on the ground and crawl your way out of certain parts.
 
Nobody complained about tight spaces. Just the sheets. Which are a problem with the flow of a house. Cornered the second time around took us much longer to get through than the first time because it backed up all the way to the Scarecrow scene. A house should not back up. Again you need to keep people moving at a certain pace for not only immersion purposes, but also flow purposes. You want to keep the line moving.

Also the backup isn't because people are too afraid to go through it, there's a very clear walkaround. But moving through those sheets, is actually physically difficult to do. In 13 you could at least sort of slip through. And Deadline has the one from above, which you can sort of lift up to help you move through it. I tried to part the sheets a little bit to help me move through it, and I still ended up getting stuck for a little bit in the middle, and that was the second time around, where the person in front of me actually just said fuck it and walked around it because it was that ridiculous. the first time through, I sort of wiggled my way through, but ended up running into the person in front of me, because A) I couldn't see and B) they were stuck.

It is a massive problem. Tight spaces are one thing. Again there's such things as moving walls, if you want to do a tight spaces thing. Nobody really said anything about how tight spaces in mazes are bad. But the sheets are out of place, They make zero sense in terms of the house. As again you are outside both before and after the sheets. They just threw it in to throw it in. If you were supposed to be in a falling apart barn, then they could have done something different. Again colasping walls is an old haunt trick that's been done in various haunts for a long time, yet they chose to take 13's old sheets and put them somewhere else.

And haunts that expect you to get on the ground and crawl, typically let you know know that it will happen, along with the fact that they aren't a theme park that is letting in decent sized groups in at a single go, so there's time to get down on the ground and crawl.
 
Sigh.  I am so tired of having words put in my mouth.

I said I am *not* a germophobe.  

Additionally, I never said I objected to going through the the idiotic balloons. For me they are an obstacle, not a scare.

I said that every time I see them I think of all of the disgusting things that could get in my hair and rub against my face.

And I believe that is the key difference.  When I sit in ride seats and restaurant chairs, I have clothes between me and them.  Furthermore, nither my mucus membrains nor my hair touch those surfaces.  There is something deeply gross about touching my cheek to some stranger's bodily fluids.   Lice aren't really even in the same category as someone's sweat.  And I really would prefer not to get a cold, just from attending HOS.

Regardless, the scare is supposed to make me feel claustrophobic.  I seriously doubt the park intends to expose me to diseases and bugs.  So please don't act as if that is part of the experience.

As for the question about narrow halls versus ballons.  The former doesn't wrap around your body and rub all over all of you; the latter does.  The comparison is completely fallacious.

Finally, my post was meant to be 75% humor, anyway.

The stacking they can cause, however, is a serious issue, in my opinion.
 
Nicole said:
Sigh.  I am so tired of having words put in my mouth.

I said I am *not* a germophobe.  

Additionally, I never said I objected to going through the the idiotic balloons.  For me they are an obstacle, not a scare.  

I said that every time I see them I think of all of the disgusting things that could get in my hair and rub against my face.

And I believe that is the key difference.  When I sit in ride seats and restaurant chairs, I have clothes between me and them.  Furthermore, nither my mucus membrains nor my hair touch those surfaces.  There is something deeply gross about touching my cheek to some stranger's bodily fluids.   Lice aren't really even in the same category as someone's sweat.  And I really would prefer not to get a cold, just from attending HOS.

Regardless, the scare is supposed to make me feel claustrophobic.  I seriously doubt the park intends to expose me to diseases and bugs.  So please don't act as if that is part of the experience.

As for the question about narrow halls versus ballons.  The former doesn't wrap around your body and rub all over all of you; the latter does.  The comparison is completely fallacious.

Finally, my post was meant to be 75% humor, anyway.

The stacking they can cause, however, is a serious issue, in my opinion.
You can get a cold by the restraints on rides..touching the railings..those bags are not as bad then what other things are around the park..if it bothers you so much just wear a hoodie in it and take it off after
 
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Walking through those things facing backwards with a hoodie on is quite fun. Just as Nicole stated though, they are not scary, nor do they belong.
 
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MrBradferd said:
Nicole said:
Sigh.  I am so tired of having words put in my mouth.

I said I am *not* a germophobe.  

Additionally, I never said I objected to going through the the idiotic balloons.  For me they are an obstacle, not a scare.  

Finally, my post was meant to be 75% humor, anyway.

The stacking they can cause, however, is a serious issue, in my opinion.
You can get a cold by the restraints on rides..touching the railings..those bags are not as bad then what other things are around the park..if it bothers you so much just wear a hoodie in it and take it off after

For the third time, since people apparently like to put words in my mouth and then make sarcastic comments...

I don't mind the balloons.

I NEVER said they bothered me. In fact, I said the exact opposite.
 
Applesauce said:
Peej1212 said:
But anyway lol i just dont like the idea of people( no one in particular i have a few friends that went and complained about it) having a problem with things that make you uncomfortable in a haunted house. Yes that can make things slow in going and not an easy pass but isn't that the point? If these things were a walk in the park why would they go.
A house should be moving. It shouldn't be super easy, but it should maintain a certain pacing. The Claustrophobia thing always causes a backup. and idk about anyone else. but I know for me, once the house starts stacking and I'm just playing follow the leader, I really have no interest in the house. the atmosphere is gone, and now you're just in line hoping that the actor had enough time to reset or get ready of their next scare.

Plus, I really don't like the idea of walking through something that has been pressed closed to somebody else's body, I don't know where you people have been. >__>

I agree with you about flow. It should flow, that makes the house work. I agree there are better ways to do a gag such as that and it wont kill the flow. I think they need work more on crowd flow going through. And pacing of groups. i have noticed that even in the houses with out that gag sometimes were playing follow the leader.
 
Applesauce said:
Nobody complained about tight spaces. Just the sheets. Which are a problem with the flow of a house. Cornered the second time around took us much longer to get through than the first time because it backed up all the way to the Scarecrow scene. A house should not back up. Again you need to keep people moving at a certain pace for not only immersion purposes, but also flow purposes. You want to keep the line moving.
How are group sizes? I actually didn't pay attention a couple of years ago when we went. Im sure they are bigger when the park is busier.
 
On Friday night when I went through Cornered, they were spacing out groups 5+ minutes apart(which is a lot more than average), yet it was still backing up to 2 scenes before the air bags. However, when I went through on Sunday night they were spacing out groups only 2-3 minutes, but there was no backup. I guess it just depends on if there are a lot of slow people in the group ahead of you who tend to stop and slow down at every other obstacle.

I'm okay with being behind someone as long as there is always a constant flow, having to stop in a backup is not good for the actors or atmosphere.
 
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Peej, I feel like it has to do with a number of things. The parks can only do so much spacing before letting in the next group, and then it'll be up to the group. However that being said, Sunday night bitten backed up badly. I wasn't even inside the house and we caught up to the group in front, I turned around to talk to Gavin, and they were letting in another group. Which is a problem. There's only so much you can do when the people in the house won't move. But spacing out groups and making sure they're at least past the first two scenes would help.

And honestly group size depends on the day. I didn't notice on Sunday when I went because I was going through the QQ entrance. But on Saturday they were doing small groups or just letting you walk in because the park was that empty die to rain.
 
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