You’re not wrong. Even 2 train ops on Apollo will see a train stack for 2-3 minutes before it starts moving again
Griffon
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Yes. Usually the third train becomes operational mid-late summer. Sometimes fall.
Griffon is down today. Hearing reports it got stuck at the top yesterday and it took a hour or two to get everyone off
Scratch that. It just started boarding. Looks like whatever issue they had yesterday is corrected now
There was a WTKR Instagram post showing a guest's 5ish second video with a caption of an evacuation.
Queue up a bunch of 'that's so scary, the ride is unsafe' kind of comments.
I think it'd have been a PR win for the park to have made a statement ahead of local news using 'eyewitness' reporting along the lines of:
'Our guests' safety is our highest priority. Our Griffon roller coaster stopped operations at time/day in accordance with established safety protocols (by the park/ride manufacturer/industry, etc.) due to (weather conditions, routine issue, etc.).
While we always attempt to safely restart the ride and avoid the need for guest evacuations, it was determined in this case that an evacuation was necessary.
Our staff are extensively trained in performing this maneuver while keeping our guests comfortable and safe (link to simulated evacuation video - I recall seeing one showing staff setting up the temporary floor at the top of the lift - at the end of the video the staffer performing the evac buckled into the seat from the staffer they 'evacuated').
In order to maintain safety, only x number of guests can be removed from the ride vehicle and escorted down to the ground - this takes time to ensure all guests remain safe throughout the evacuation process.
Out of an abundance of caution, we also made medical assistance available to all evacuated guests and # were evaluated and treated for (mild dehydration, etc.).
Finally, our maintenance team performed an additional ride inspection per (park/manufacturer/industry) standards and found it is safe to continue operating.
Please don't hesitate to reach out to us for further questions, and we hope to see you soon!'
This statement above could literally be copy and pasted and modified where needed to apply to specific attractions for *all* stoppages that take as long as this one did.
I despise the word "stuck" when it comes to modern rides like these. The GP loves it. 
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I depside the word "stuck" when it comes to modern rides like these. The GP loves it.
I mean, it's kind of applicable in most cases though - the ride vehicle is held in place (stuck) via mechanical means. In an overwhelming majority of situations this is related to safety protocols, with the rare derailment being one of the few other reasons (looking at you, Sand Blaster the cursed Pinfari Zyclon) or valleys.
Of course, the non-thoosies in the group don't really make the discernment between reasons why the the vehicle remained stopped for awhile anywhere along the course other than the station - 'ride is crazy, it's unsafe ' tends to be the related thought process.
There was some drama going on at Griffon a few minutes ago...
So I was on Griffon In the middle row, and some guy was mad talking to some other guy in the front, and the ride op was there too trying to get it sorted out, and all I really heard was the op saying something about not touching people or something like that. When I got off I heard someone say that that guy was touching a nine year old girls butt (in line for griffon, I assume), and the guy was storming off after the ride, but someone was trying to go after him. I'm not sure exactly what happened and what happened afterwards, but that's what I saw.
I think after getting on SheiKra, Valravn, Dr. D, and Iron Menace, I can't see Emperor or Yukon beating out Griffon for my favorite dive and I find myself appreciating it more over time. It's never a bad day when you just find Griffon with a 1 train wait. I have to say my last ride was before one of the "wasp closures" and whoa. I rode it two times in a row and the first ride I saw the wasps flying around but not that many. The 2nd ride? I saw like 20-30 wasps just flying around us as we were hanging over the drop. One of those moments where you're like "yeah if the holding brake could just......."
I honestly couldn't imagine being in that situation with a fear of roller coasters AND an allergy to wasps. Sheesh.
I honestly couldn't imagine being in that situation with a fear of roller coasters AND an allergy to wasps. Sheesh.
Probably not it would be a fairly significant liability risk to have non medical staff admister one or even just hand but first aid is just on the other side of the train tracks.
VA has Good Samaritan laws in place. They could provide it and not be liable if BGW trains them on how to administer
Those laws protect individuals not companies and would not provide any protection to BGW
Correct. I still carry FA and CPR cards and get recertified regularly. All those laws do is protect me to allow me to help. If I did it in my role at work and mess up then my company is still liable.
And while Good Samaritan Laws allow me to jump into action without fear of retribution, I'm still not the "authority".
So in this example, if you come off the ride and get to the bridge and start to have a reaction, I announce I'm first aid trained, grab my EpiPen and stick you; someone still needs to call 9-1-1 and any paramedics that may be part of BGW's staff.. They are still responsible for the overall care in that position. If I administer the EpiPen and it doesn't work for some reason, it protects me from being sued for not saving the person.
Its a really interesting set of laws that I studied when taking a sports law course while getting my minor in athletic coaching. A major intent of Good Samaritan Laws was to stop something like me getting sued for breaking your ribs while performing the heimlich. Like the alternative there is that I don't do it and someone does. It also protects something like I'm performing CPR and the person is lost - I'm not at fault for not sacing them.
Without getting political - this is why life saving care devices should be readily affordable. If someone has that severe a reaction to something they shouldn't have to rely on people around the having an EpiPen and putting others in position to face legal issues for saving their live.