Griffon
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There are coasters beyond 90 degrees all over such as Mystery Mine at Dollywood, Fahrenheit at Hershey Park, and a bunch others. Most Gerstlauer rides have a 90 or greater degree drop on their coasters.
Timber Drop
Iron Shark
And that's just a few, there are many others.
Timber Drop
Iron Shark
And that's just a few, there are many others.
The biggest thing I dislike about Fahrenheit, is the 90° lift. With the drop, however, you can barely feel the difference. Griffon builds up great excitement by holding you over the edge before you drop. It's too bad they have to check the harnesses after every ride, because if they could let you ride it twice, I think it would be the best roller coaster in the world for ages to come. That being said, obviously they don't allow that, so I think Griffon is too short, and I actually prefer Loch Ness monster over it somewhat.
Fahrenheit's vertical lift is pretty cool sans the sun in your eyes. I kept thinking I was gonna fall out of the train. Even with the harness on extra tight (I happened to ride after the lady fell off the Texas Giant). The rest of the ride is pretty nutty too.
Assuming the second drop is similar to the first gen DMs, the drop will be about 87.5 degrees. Not completely vertical, but close enough.
Assuming the second drop is similar to the first gen DMs, the drop will be about 87.5 degrees. Not completely vertical, but close enough.
I wasnt saying busch was, but theme parks in general. Buschs problem is how they advertise. They mainly do it locally, and they need to reach a more national way.They arent like Universal, where they can advertise for new stuff once in a while, because they arent as big as universal or disney. They have to reach more people.More people outside of the mid atlantic
They did advertise for Griffon quite well, getting them over 3 million guests in 2007, however they barely adevrtised Verbolten. So they know how to advertise, but they decide to go the cheap way and just advertise in NC, VA, D.C., and MD. They don't even advertise there well! :s
My understanding (and rcdb confirms, for its part) is that Griffon is 90 degrees exactly and that it and SheiKra were the first to be so.
I don't remember the exact story, but Alton Towers' Oblivion is famously 87-degrees supposedly because B&M had not yet found the correct alignment of train components and absorbers and all of that internal engineering to keep the train tight against a 90-degree track.
That story may all be noise, but RCDB lists '98 and 2000's Dive Machines as 87 and 87.5 degrees, respectively, reaching 90 with SheiKra and Griffon.
As for the multitude of other coasters that exceed 90 degrees, I prefer B&M's dive machines.
All of Gerstlauer and S&S' creations are generally small carts that are about nimble, quick movements and "zany" track elements and quick flips. B&M's dive machines are powerful, regal, and graceful. They're as opposite as can be.
I don't remember the exact story, but Alton Towers' Oblivion is famously 87-degrees supposedly because B&M had not yet found the correct alignment of train components and absorbers and all of that internal engineering to keep the train tight against a 90-degree track.
That story may all be noise, but RCDB lists '98 and 2000's Dive Machines as 87 and 87.5 degrees, respectively, reaching 90 with SheiKra and Griffon.
As for the multitude of other coasters that exceed 90 degrees, I prefer B&M's dive machines.
All of Gerstlauer and S&S' creations are generally small carts that are about nimble, quick movements and "zany" track elements and quick flips. B&M's dive machines are powerful, regal, and graceful. They're as opposite as can be.
The first drop is most definitely 90 degrees but the main argument was about the second drop, since it is mainly referred to as a "vertical drop" and clearly does not have the same steep drop that the first has but possibly a steep angle at some point along the way down. Hoopla apparently found that it's max angle is 87 degrees on the second drop.bkroz pid=92545 dateline=1392737283 said:
Just a quick note.
We went on Griffon twice in a row in the morning, because it was a walk-on. We got splashed both times. I don't recall ever getting wet on Griffon or Sheikra before. I guess they filled the "lake."
We went on Griffon twice in a row in the morning, because it was a walk-on. We got splashed both times. I don't recall ever getting wet on Griffon or Sheikra before. I guess they filled the "lake."
I wasn't able to go on Griffon yesterday. The first time I got in line, I got towards the front then it broke down. Then 30 minutes later I got in line again, and then it broke down, and then the other time I went by it, it wasn't running.
Well keep in mind the splashing water is a result of those hydrobrakes things, from what was discussed earlier. Depending on how they are positioned the water splashes a certain way.
Right. And I have never been splashed on either the Griffon or Sheikra before. They are positioned to splash observers, or were in the past.
I didn't say it was either good or bad; I said it was a change. And I wonder if the water level is higher than normal.
I didn't say it was either good or bad; I said it was a change. And I wonder if the water level is higher than normal.
Well I was getting to the point that perhaps they are repositioned in a way to get riders wet, if thats even possible.
My wife and I rode this for the 1st time on Friday! The station was completely empty. Even the front seat was a walk on. 1st ride was in the 2nd row middle. Somebody was scared of the 1st row 
After riding once, it was decided to immediately get back on in the front row. WoW!! What a fun ride! Staring straight down that 1st hill is quite an awesome experience. (By the way, every coaster/ride on Friday had completely empty stations.) The France skybucket operator said there were less than 3000 people in the park. Not sure how he knew this, but it seemed more like 300 people in the park! Simply awesome day at BGW.
After riding once, it was decided to immediately get back on in the front row. WoW!! What a fun ride! Staring straight down that 1st hill is quite an awesome experience. (By the way, every coaster/ride on Friday had completely empty stations.) The France skybucket operator said there were less than 3000 people in the park. Not sure how he knew this, but it seemed more like 300 people in the park! Simply awesome day at BGW.