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As far as Verbolten goes, I am sure they are going to wait a bit after Christmas Town ends or when the ride is fully tested before they really go hard on the advertisement. I am sure they don' want another Mach Tower incident.

BG Europe Fan, You are right. I could be over thinking. The renovations could be nothing, but what if they aren't? Sometimes it is the little things that have the biggest meanings behind them, and people over look these things all the time.

As for November operations, it will happen. After all, look at Howl-o-Scream. It is probably a more in depth detailed event than Christmas Town and yet they manage to at least stay open on the weekends. It can be done.
 
Party Rocker said:
As far as Verbolten goes, I am sure they are going to wait a bit after Christmas Town ends or when the ride is fully tested before they really go hard on the advertisement. I am sure they don' want another Mach Tower incident.

When CT ends yes. After the ride is tested. No

BG Europe Fan, You are right. I could be over thinking. The renovations could be nothing, but what if they aren't? Sometimes it is the little things that have the biggest meanings behind them, and people over look these things all the time.

My feelings on the restroom renovations are the park needed bigger bathrooms so they are making bigger restrooms. It's that simple. Think, all the bathrooms in the park are from the first 2 to 3 years the park was open. This isn't something new either. Remember back in 2008 they expanded the restrooms at the park entrance.

As for November operations, it will happen. After all, look at Howl-o-Scream. It is probably a more in depth detailed event than Christmas Town and yet they manage to at least stay open on the weekends. It can be done.

Let me stop you right there. HOS set up starts around early August and goes until the minutes before the park opens and still everything doesn't get completed. CT setup starts 3 months before opening with a month of no operations and even then its down to the wire. The month of November is crucial to both HOS strike and CT set up. Having the park open for 6 days is just stupid. For one most of HOS's set up is behind the scenes in haunted houses and and scare zones and park lighting can be set up with the time between weekends. For CT there is much more in park set up that has to take place. It most certainly cannot be done.
 
Doesn't Disney stay open while they're switching between their decorations for the holidays? I'm not saying BGW should, but it's not like they can't get any work done.
 
pandorazboxx said:
Doesn't Disney stay open while they're switching between their decorations for the holidays? I'm not saying BGW should, but it's not like they can't get any work done.

Aside from Main Street USA, The Magic Kingdom has very little in the way of holiday decorations when compared to the Sea World Parks...
 
BG Europe Fan said:
pandorazboxx said:
Doesn't Disney stay open while they're switching between their decorations for the holidays? I'm not saying BGW should, but it's not like they can't get any work done.
BGT certainly does.

1. BGT's location, and that of their competition, are conducive to 365-day operation.

2. Aside from the entrance plaza, Morocco and the show venues, there are very few holiday decorations at BGT...
 
Haberdasher1973 said:
1. BGT's location, and that of their competition, are conducive to 365-day operation.

My view on year round operation at BGW has been stated several times in this thread. Also, another thing to note is the fact that when Disney America (the canceled Disney park from 1994, that was to be built near Manassas, VA) was being planned, it was only going to be a seasonal park open from March to December.

Haberdasher1973 said:
2. Aside from the entrance plaza, Morocco and the show venues, there are very few holiday decorations at BGT...

I was just stating a fact, and I've never been to BGT, so I wouldn't know that.
 
If other parks can be open year-round and do changes from one event to the next, so can BGW. It would just take a bunch more theater technicians, but it is entirely possible.
 
Party Rocker said:
If other parks can be open year-round and do changes from one event to the next, so can BGW. It would just take a bunch more theater technicians, but it is entirely possible.

But why hire and train extra techs and all the other headaches for only 6 extra days of operation?
 
Haberdasher1973 said:
Aside from Main Street USA, The Magic Kingdom has very little in the way of holiday decorations when compared to the Sea World Parks...

Think so? Magic Kingdom certainly appeared more decorated two weeks ago when I was at both.

pandorazboxx said:
Doesn't Disney stay open while they're switching between their decorations for the holidays? I'm not saying BGW should, but it's not like they can't get any work done.

Disney has a MUCH bigger payroll. There is ALWAYS something going on in the park work wise. If you stay in a MK Resort where you can see lights then you watch them tweak lights and shows at 4am. There is a crane in view behind in the castle in September and January for the castle lights. The street decor is taken down land at a time.
 
Atlantis said:
Haberdasher1973 said:
Aside from Main Street USA, The Magic Kingdom has very little in the way of holiday decorations when compared to the Sea World Parks...

Think so? Magic Kingdom certainly appeared more decorated two weeks ago when I was at both.

Yes, I do think so: WDW blows their wad at the front gate through Main Street USA: Adventureland has nothing, Liberty Square, Frontierland and Fantasyland have very little, and Tomorrowland has a stage for holiday entertainment. Comparatively, NO hamlet is untouched in BGW and practically no building is without decor. At Sea World, every step from the turnstiles to the Seafire Inn is decorated. From there, decorations are non-stop around (and 85 trees ON) the park's lake... Sea World also opens an oft-unused path to create a marketplace area a-la Oktoberfest's. At the waterfront, Sea World has custom-made fiberglass caps of snow on the rooftops. In the children's area, Shamu's Happy Harbor, there are custom-made fiberglass hats and scarves of all shapes and sizes on the animal statuary.
 
It would be hiring and training more techs in order to change between the two events quickly and efficiently. It would not be for just 6 days. If you think about it, with a larger team working, more things can get done quicker. Which means that they can get more done when the park is closed.
 
Party Rocker said:
New restrooms to 'German Village' means they expect more people to use them at once? This could be leading to expansion near wherever the bathroom is.

I don't know if this idea has been thrown out there yet, but don't ya think they're adding them because they JUST added Verbolten, a new pretzel place, and Mach Tower, as well as renovated Oktoberfest. I'm pretty sure they are adding them to accommodate for the volume of the people there in the future (Same reason they are considering adding a "Germany Train Station.")
 
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True, but the new Germany train station will be primarily used as a park entrance/exit for resort guests. Also, with bathroom expansions throughout the park it may not necessarily be for the Oktoberfest thing. (Which, off topic, I hate terribly. With the new colors, Oktoberfest looks like a cartoon rather than realistic. Anyone else agree?)

My point being, if you have a small restroom and you expect more people to use them, you expect more people in the park because something is pulling in more people, so you add on to your small bathroom and make it bigger. Yes, it could be for the Oktoberfest Renovation, Mach Tower, and Verbolten, but honestly I think that they expect a increase in park attendance park-wide not just in one area. After all, Scotland has updated and expanded bathrooms and I don't see anything new in Scotland anytime soon.
 
Party Rocker said:
Yes, it could be for the Oktoberfest Renovation, Mach Tower, and Verbolten, but honestly I think that they expect a increase in park attendance park-wide not just in one area. After all, Scotland has updated and expanded bathrooms and I don't see anything new in Scotland anytime soon.

I think it's much simpler: Like Scotland's restrooms, I believe the Rhinefeld restrooms were built when the park had a smaller capacity: to my knowledge, they predate Oktoberfest, San Marco and Festa Italia. The park can now handle more people, and this is a much-needed update to the infrastructure.
 
Haberdasher1973 said:
Party Rocker said:
Yes, it could be for the Oktoberfest Renovation, Mach Tower, and Verbolten, but honestly I think that they expect a increase in park attendance park-wide not just in one area. After all, Scotland has updated and expanded bathrooms and I don't see anything new in Scotland anytime soon.

I think it's much simpler: Like Scotland's restrooms, I believe the Rhinefeld restrooms were built when the park had a smaller capacity: to my knowledge, they predate Oktoberfest, San Marco and Festa Italia. The park can now handle more people, and this is a much-needed update to the infrastructure.
Agreed. They are just bringing these restrooms up to the local building and plumbing codes. Since these codes are updated every few years.
 
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