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AMC filing for bankruptcy is comparable to SEAS situation. No revenue coming in and one of the harder types of businesses to re-open with the virus still around.

Maybe if SEAS was a smaller company with a single creditor, they could work things out, but a larger company like SEAS has numerous creditors and vendors with all kinds of terms and covenants to navigate. They might be able to extend some loans and payment periods, but that only goes so far.
To that point I seen people saying that Regal is not far behind them and is in real danger of not reopening.
 
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So what happens if the country reopens in 20 days, how long before BGW opens? And if they dont open for another month after that but still take payments?
The White House can recommend to "reopen the country" but it'll be up to the states to lift any restrictions, etc. Remember it was individual states, counties and cities and not the federal government that imposed the stay-at-home, etc. I would guess, should Northam lift the executive orders, it would take BGW at least a month to gear up.

(Related I read other venues nationwide are looking at June 1.)
 
If the movie theaters end up tanking, I'm curious to see how that affects the movie industry and how movies get released.

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If the movie theaters end up tanking, I'm curious to see how that affects the movie industry and how movies get released.

Admins feel free to relocate this if needed.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see AMC and Regal shut down half or more of their theaters after this is over. You’ll probable see more direct to streaming offers direct to consumers with the remaining theaters upping their hard product.

Obviously BGW and other parks aren’t going to shut down half their park, but if crowds are down a lot, the calendar and events could be scaled back extensively on days that just aren’t profitable to be open or have special events.
 
I think we're more likely to see less profitable parks shuttered if not outright closed.

The thing is, whereas you can experience a movie practically anywhere (though some can argue the theater experience is what makes the difference), you really can't just go ride a coaster or a collection of flat rides anywhere.

So there's likely going to be enough demand once folks have enough disposable income again (may take several years) to where companies that can reopen a shuttered park will find themselves at an advantage - their spending will be more on maintenance and reopening costs, not the huge expenses to build something brand new.

Edit: this probably belongs in the COVID-19 industry thread... My apologies
 
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In a worst case scenario, might Pantheon never get ridden?
 
In a worst case scenario, might Pantheon never get ridden?
BGW will reopen even in a worst case scenario and Pantheon will run shortly after. Whether SEAS is still the owner is questionable, but the park itself is way too valuable not to reopen.

The bad case scenarios are probably 50%+ drops in attendance. BGW can survive in that environment by cutting back operating days and reducing events and shows. However I’m not sure a park such as Six Flags America or Michigan’s Adventure can survive that kind of attendance drop, as they don’t make a lot even in good times.
 
Notice how seas wasn't mentioned
 

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I received an email response also. Just. So. Lazy. (insert SeaWorld or Busch Gardens parks)?????? Really?!?!?!?!

Hello,

Thank you for emailing Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

Thanks for your question. Active annual passes, season passes, and membership products to (insert SeaWorld or Busch Gardens parks) will be extended by a period at least as long as the temporary closure. No action is required on your part, if your annual pass is within its first twelve months. If you are on our EZpay program and have met your initial twelve month commitment, please provide us with your pass barcode, first and last name as well as the email address associated with your membership account.

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Obviously, I didn't get any real explanation of what their plan is, like @I64 Trekker. We are on our third year of EZPay. I used BGW.GuestRelations@buschgardens.com. I'm really glad they care so much about their (insert Members or Pass Members).?
 
That there is some extra carin' help. At least now I have my answer on trying another "CSR" (Can't Shitin'' Read). Their whole response to this is just so, so, embarrassing. ?‍♂️? I'd be really pissed to receive a response like this from a legit company. Sadly, this level of incompetence, and lack of care, is what I now expect from BG.
 
I received an email response also. Just. So. Lazy. (insert SeaWorld or Busch Gardens parks)?????? Really?!?!?!?!



Obviously, I didn't get any real explanation of what their plan is, like @I64 Trekker. We are on our third year of EZPay. I used BGW.GuestRelations@buschgardens.com. I'm really glad they care so much about their (insert Members or Pass Members).?
I very tempted to email and see if I get the same response now.
 
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I got less of a form letter response from a customer service rep, but without any commitment that anything will be done for me.

Thank you for your inquiry.

In order for us to better assist you, can you please provide your barcode and/or the park to which your inquiry references?

Please stay safe and we hope to be able to see you soon,

I will provide my information and see what happens, but I am expecting to need to email them multiple times to have a chance of receiving anything down the line.
 

AMC filing for bankruptcy is comparable to SEAS situation. No revenue coming in and one of the harder types of businesses to re-open with the virus still around.

Maybe if SEAS was a smaller company with a single creditor, they could work things out, but a larger company like SEAS has numerous creditors and vendors with all kinds of terms and covenants to navigate. They might be able to extend some loans and payment periods, but that only goes so far.

I think comparing movie theaters to BGW is a bad avenue to take. Movie theaters have their own set of issues like leases (massive spaces in expensive areas), the fact that most of their revenue comes from concessions not ticket sales (they get such a small portion of ticket sales they might as well consider it a net nothing), and the expense of maintaining a projector. Plus their cash flow is on a much smaller scale than a place like SEAS.

The point I was making originally is there are hundreds to thousands of companies in the same exact boat as SEAS right now. No money is coming in, too many things to pay, unable to pay everyone. And I bet if you really dug around you would find those places reporting the same issues. It's up to SEAS and their creditors/vendors to come up with solutions to help each other. The last thing those places want is for SEAS to declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy and they lose out on any money. I know the company I work for called some vendors mid-March and started to plan on working on deferments for payments in April and May. And the vendors worked with us because they knew if they didn't it would get bad.

Even if they do reduced payments for up til 3 months after they reopen in exchange for slightly raised payments after that, its better business for that creditor/vendor than refusing to work with them and having no payments come in and have to go to some sort of collections. If they go the route of refusing to work with SEAS or any company they work with, prepare for hundreds/thousands of companies to shutter before this is offer and never come back. Which would do the long term damage to the economy as opposed to working together and making this recession look more like a 'V'.

To be more BGW/SEAS specific, they should be calling these places now to solve all of this. Figure out how to continue to make payments or not to fall to something like collections before this is over. If SEAS is struggling that much, they should (as I suggested) consider possibly selling something that someone is willing to purchase. They should look into how to qualify for funding that's available. There's so many things they should try long ling before filing any form of bankruptcy is the answer.

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Basically my point boils down to the fact that everyone is in the same position here. This isn't like SF needing to file Chapter 11 (overextending themselves) or SEAS struggling with debt (Blackfish scandal) where they put themselves in this situation. Everyone is struggling with the same things right now so those creditors/vendors are most likely to work with companies more so than usual.
 
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I only continued the theater discussion because I was genuinely interested to see what might happen to movie theaters specifically and not related to BGW. That was my bad for continuing that.

But I do agree, each company needs to work one-on-one with their creditors/contractors/vendors, etc.
 
In regards to opening again, this comment was made in regards to Las Vegas but I feel it applies to BGW (and all other venues of entertainment) -

The dynamics of reopening (location) and when people even feel comfortable/safe traveling again are complex. Opening without a vaccine or systems of mass/rapid testing and identification feels increasingly fringe.

As been discussed in this and the "Amusement Industry" thread, how is BGW going to convince people it's safe to return? Limit attendance? Add thermometers to the metal detector area? And, if they do open and someone contracts Covid-19 traceable back to the park, what then?
 
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