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I have a dumb question at the Busch gardens Williamsburg website has not answered for me. I have reservations to the day session on Saturday and wanted to know does that mean that we only have access to the park from 12:00 to 3:00 p.m. because the hours are 12:00 to 6:00? Will they force us out if we don't leave by 3:00 p.m.? I don't know how this works can someone please explain this to me I appreciate the help.
 
So, when the park goes to attend to 10:00 to 10:00 schedule. It will be two sessions of 6 hours?

If/when the park goes to a full schedule, the expectation is that it will be a single session, as they've currently gone to with the 4-9 and 12-6 windows for the current event. The double session system has already been phased out for the current event, and while we might see this shift over Spring Break for now the expectation is that when the "full park" reopens (whenever that might be) it will be under a normal operating schedule.
 
Then why is there a "day session" / "night session" sign up on their website?

Originally Mardi Gras used the two session setup but, due to decreased demand, they combined the sessions into one session per day. Presumably the system is still in place as to not screw up existing reservations and possibly facilitate multiple sessions a day again this spring as demand rebounds.
 
I have mentioned this before, but I thought "non essential" businesses weren't supposed to be open. I understand that there are safety precautions but to have thousands of people in one area just to ride some rides is pretty wild.
 
That hasn't been true for a long time, and it's not as simple as that. It's about keeping the economy going and allowing businesses to survive. If all these businesses tank our community is ruined. We have to have precautions, but we still need to allow what we can to open.
At the beginning of all this it seemed to be as simple as that? Non essential businesses were closed because it was safer. I agree that businesses should be open. I just think its funny that some people are changing their tune about "essential businesses'" once it hurts their bank account.
 
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My understanding is that rules about which businesses could be open and under which constraints have changed because we have learned more about the virus.
 
It feels silly to rehash so many different eras of this thread for the purpose of addressing a drive-by barb that's based on nothing that was actually said in this thread over the past few days, but if that's what you REALLY want shwasty, trust that we're more than willing.
 
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It feels silly to rehash so many different eras of this thread for the purpose of addressing a drive-by barb that's based on nothing that was actually said in this thread over the past few days, but if that's what you REALLY want shwasty, trust that we're more than willing.
im just confused why you want a non-essential business open? Why should we have a non essential business open with thousands of people together?
 
why risk it so you can ride a couple rides? its a global pandemic. Personally i dont think the park should be open at all. BG isn't an essential business.

Ok. But that isn‘t the snark I was responding to.

You said, ”I just think its funny that some people are changing their tune about ’essential businesses' once it hurts their bank account.”

I was pointing out that the rules changed in response to new knowledge, not some purely cynical impulse.
 
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im just confused why you want a non-essential business open? Why should we have a non essential business open with thousands of people together?

Virginia moved past the point of closing all but essential businesses in May of last year. That conversation has not really been a reality in this country since the beginning: while total lockdowns have been used in other countries to differing levels of success, America has always been balancing the needs of commerce and public safety, a dangerous game that due to a lack of coordination from the federal government and inconsistent approaches across states cost hundreds of thousands of lives that could have been saved with a federally-organized and supported response to the virus. However, the reality is that the situation was what it was, and states, local governments, and businesses had to adapt to that scenario.

As a result, the question is not about essential/non-essential, but rather whether or not different businesses have done the work necessary to operate safely under the circumstances. Once data emerged to suggest that outdoor transmission of the virus was rare, and more difficult than indoor transmission, the amusement sector made its case for reopening: this didn't work in California, which has been amongst the strictest states, but it worked in much of the rest of the country because a combination of natural protections (large outdoor space where it's possible to distance) and proactive measures (mask mandates even in states that didn't have them, physical distancing markers, capacity restrictions on rides/attractions, etc.) by the parks represent a stronger argument than other venues where these factors may not be in place. And in the case of Virginia, the state initially placed more restrictions on the parks than in other jurisdictions by enforcing the 1000-person cap, which BGW chose to accept and developed the multiple timeslot approach to maximize revenue while nonetheless respecting the state's guidelines. This earned them the ability to expand capacity after operating for a little over three months with no evidence of virus transmission or "outbreak" events associated with the parks.

In my 14-ish visits to the park since last August, it is simply wrong to suggest that thousands of people are "together." While there may be isolated instances where people violate your personal space or where someone is not wearing a mask correctly or abusing the "except when eating and drinking" rule, the number of "close contact" moments created during a park visit even with an expanded capacity is incredibly small. Once the science became clearer on the importance of proximity and duration, and as the general public adapted to the mask mandate in more parts of their everyday life, and as the weather became cooler, visiting the park felt like a safe way to leverage the outdoor nature of the park during a time when few other entertainment options could be considered safe. This does not mean there was no risk, but there is nothing we can do right now without risk, and thus having the park open creates a chance for guests to make that choice for themselves.

Could BGW be doing more in terms of enforcing distancing or cracking down on abusers of the walking-and-drinking policy? Absolutely, and the way KD was running things when they were open in December made that abundantly clear. But we are through the figurative looking glass as to "businesses operating during the pandemic," and all available evidence suggests that while there are elements of the theme park experience that can still generate some anxiety, when you spread those thousands of people across an entire park with pretty consistently good mask compliance and an increasingly adaptive public to the social distancing elements of the experience, it separates itself from other amusements (most of which are also open, and much riskier if indoors).
 
Ok. But that isn‘t the snark I was responding to.

You said, ”I just think its funny that some people are changing their tune about ’essential businesses' once it hurts their bank account.”

I was pointing out that the rules changed in response to new knowledge, not some purely cynical impulse.
even if the rules changed, why should we be grouping together with thousands of people? Personally I think its irresponsible to have thousands of people together in the same spot? If its such a concern why would you even risk having thousands of people together during a global pandemic?
 
Virginia moved past the point of closing all but essential businesses in May of last year. That conversation has not really been a reality in this country since the beginning: while total lockdowns have been used in other countries to differing levels of success, America has always been balancing the needs of commerce and public safety, a dangerous game that due to a lack of coordination from the federal government and inconsistent approaches across states cost hundreds of thousands of lives that could have been saved with a federally-organized and supported response to the virus. However, the reality is that the situation was what it was, and states, local governments, and businesses had to adapt to that scenario.

As a result, the question is not about essential/non-essential, but rather whether or not different businesses have done the work necessary to operate safely under the circumstances. Once data emerged to suggest that outdoor transmission of the virus was rare, and more difficult than indoor transmission, the amusement sector made its case for reopening: this didn't work in California, which has been amongst the strictest states, but it worked in much of the rest of the country because a combination of natural protections (large outdoor space where it's possible to distance) and proactive measures (mask mandates even in states that didn't have them, physical distancing markers, capacity restrictions on rides/attractions, etc.) by the parks represent a stronger argument than other venues where these factors may not be in place. And in the case of Virginia, the state initially placed more restrictions on the parks than in other jurisdictions by enforcing the 1000-person cap, which BGW chose to accept and developed the multiple timeslot approach to maximize revenue while nonetheless respecting the state's guidelines. This earned them the ability to expand capacity after operating for a little over three months with no evidence of virus transmission or "outbreak" events associated with the parks.

In my 14-ish visits to the park since last August, it is simply wrong to suggest that thousands of people are "together." While there may be isolated instances where people violate your personal space or where someone is not wearing a mask correctly or abusing the "except when eating and drinking" rule, the number of "close contact" moments created during a park visit even with an expanded capacity is incredibly small. Once the science became clearer on the importance of proximity and duration, and as the general public adapted to the mask mandate in more parts of their everyday life, and as the weather became cooler, visiting the park felt like a safe way to leverage the outdoor nature of the park during a time when few other entertainment options could be considered safe. This does not mean there was no risk, but there is nothing we can do right now without risk, and thus having the park open creates a chance for guests to make that choice for themselves.

Could BGW be doing more in terms of enforcing distancing or cracking down on abusers of the walking-and-drinking policy? Absolutely, and the way KD was running things when they were open in December made that abundantly clear. But we are through the figurative looking glass as to "businesses operating during the pandemic," and all available evidence suggests that while there are elements of the theme park experience that can still generate some anxiety, when you spread those thousands of people across an entire park with pretty consistently good mask compliance and an increasingly adaptive public to the social distancing elements of the experience, it separates itself from other amusements (most of which are also open, and much riskier if indoors).
no matter what rules you put in place why should you put people's lives at risk so you can gets some ribs? There's no reason as to why BG should be open. It's a global pandemic.
 
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Perhaps rules have changed because concerns have changed. If yours hasn't, don't visit the park or a place that makes you uncomfortable.

Everyone who is visiting BGW or any place that is open currently is putting their safety on the line by choice because their concerns for the pandemic are not severe. Now this is just my opinion but I believe the majority of this is over. People are starting to get jobs again, where I work is heavily dependent on human contact and we're beginning to hire people back and open the entire place back up. Hopefully if people are smart enough, they'll think that that just because a place is open they don't necessarily have to visit it.

It's not the businesses being "irresponsible" it's the visitors. But I don't believe anyone is being irresponsible.
 
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Perhaps rules have changed because concerns have changed. If yours hasn't, don't visit the park or a place that makes you uncomfortable.

Everyone who is visiting BGW or any place that is open currently is putting their safety on the line by choice because their concerns for the pandemic are not severe. Now this is just my opinion but I believe the majority of this is over. People are starting to get jobs again, where I work is heavily dependent on human contact and we're beginning to hire people back and open the entire place back up. Hopefully if people are smart enough, they'll think that that just because a place is open they don't necessarily have to visit it.

It's not the businesses being "irresponsible" it's the visitors. But I don't believe anyone is being irresponsible.
I'm just confused why businesses are open now? Apparently we couldn't have "essential" businesses for months on end? Why should BG be open even with precautions? It's a non essential business having thousands of people in the same spot? If people cared so much about the pandemic they would not support BG opening.
 
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