COVID-19 & Coasters: Coronavirus Impacts on the Amusement Industry
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That would eliminate any handling of food by guests.
It also would ensure that people are at a specific location and away from other guests while they eat with their masks off.
Just a quick comment on masks, not trying to incite a fight, but requiring them all the time will create problems itself. As someone who has to wear one at work sometimes, walking miles and being active I can tell you it impacts you. Many Americans are not in good shape and struggle in the Florida heat already, adding a mask will make this worse.
I think strongly recommending is smart as it allows more flexibility. Also I can see requiring them for indoor attractions like shows and during parades and fireworks.
Another issue with requiring at all times is that it makes hydrating more difficult, which is again a danger in the heat. Just a couple considerations I thought I would share from my experiences.
I think strongly recommending is smart as it allows more flexibility. Also I can see requiring them for indoor attractions like shows and during parades and fireworks.
Another issue with requiring at all times is that it makes hydrating more difficult, which is again a danger in the heat. Just a couple considerations I thought I would share from my experiences.
I hate to sound very callused saying this, but that's something an individual needs to consider before booking a trip. Considering that there are some loose options that are acceptable as masks/face coverings, maybe they should look into getting one. For example, I have 3 different masks. I got a heavier fabric one that I use for just sorta being around out in public, such as sitting at my counter at work. I use a much thinner one when teaching because it's easier to hear me. When I go out for walks or golfing, I use one that basically looks like a shirt sleeve, so it stays up over my nose, but the mouth area is looser and down by the neck is pretty open to allow air flow.
I would say the issue with strongly recommending a mask is it spreads quick from most people wearing one to few people wearing one. The heavier you breath the more likely it is that large droplets come out. The idea of the mask is to minimize the number of large droplets coming out, so that way if you are an asymptomatic carrier of the virus it lessens the possibility of spread.
How so? Stop for a moment, lift the mask or undo an ear, take a sip of what you are drinking. No one is going to make a comment about that.
Very much agreed with this, and I think it's why there's any discussion to begin with.
There's a misperception that masks stop transmission by breathing which is untrue unless you are wearing an N95 mask. Most cloth masks aren't going to catch any of the virus particles from breathing. The cloth masks catch the larger droplets from coughing, sneezing, clearing your throat, etc. which are more rapidly contagious. The breathing particles can be avoided by social distancing or limiting contact time with a person - the articles seem to say 30-60 minutes of contact time is needed to transmit.
For parks, I think masks can be highly recommended with masks mandatory on rides, inside spaces, and outdoor events where social distancing can't be maintained (e.g. shows and parades).
For parks, I think masks can be highly recommended with masks mandatory on rides, inside spaces, and outdoor events where social distancing can't be maintained (e.g. shows and parades).
So Legoland was approved for June 1st, I can imagine that Universal will most likely be approved for June 1st (soft openings) and then June 5th (to the public). SeaWorld has already said mid-June if they get approval soon. It seems Disney is the big unknown right now, but I don't think it is too far fetched to assume they will reopen within the first two weeks of June.
Maybe we will have a regular (masked, sanitized, and distanced) 4th of July after all.
Maybe we will have a regular (masked, sanitized, and distanced) 4th of July after all.
@tursiops I just wanted to ease your concerns about difficulty breathing. There are masks that are available that have built-in vents for exhaling. While I have yet to use one myself, a co-worked explained that it is much more easier to breathe in compared to the generic cloth designs most people are using now. He said it almost felt like normal.
So I think the bigger concern is for people to have access to smarter mask designs that allow for better breathing and airflow while still maintaining a high degree of safety. It is also up to the individual to determine which mask is best suited for their needs provided the mask meets or exceeds the health specifications that it should.
The real problem is that so many companies and individuals are making and selling super cheap and inefficient masks just because it is quick, easy, and profitable. If they spent the time and effort in designing, making, and pushing more well thought-out and comfortable masks I don't think the masks themselves would be as big an issue.
So I think the bigger concern is for people to have access to smarter mask designs that allow for better breathing and airflow while still maintaining a high degree of safety. It is also up to the individual to determine which mask is best suited for their needs provided the mask meets or exceeds the health specifications that it should.
The real problem is that so many companies and individuals are making and selling super cheap and inefficient masks just because it is quick, easy, and profitable. If they spent the time and effort in designing, making, and pushing more well thought-out and comfortable masks I don't think the masks themselves would be as big an issue.
I think Disney has a bigger problem of reopening than many. They have way to many reservatiosn on the books for resorts as well as dining reservations. People have already made fastpasses and bought secial event tickets. How do they decide which people keep theor resort or dinig reservations and which do not. Disney als also pushing for the NBA games and will need resort space to quarintine the players so do they just pick a few resorts and calcel all those guests stays? It gets tricky when people are paying for dining plans if they cant get into resturaunts to use those plans. How will transportation to the parks work? A Disney bus can hold up 90 some people at max an stretch busses more. Now cut that number in half theyneed twice the busses. What if it takes a couple hours to get a bus to the parks then they try to distance each family 6 foot. The line for Studios at Pop Century will weave half way through the resort.
Those maks defeat the purpose of wearing a mask to protect others completely. Those masks have a one way flap that allows unfiltered un restricted exhalation but then closes on inhalation so as the air you breathe in is filtered to protect you. Yes you are wearing a mask but for no reason.
Cloth masks don't protect from exhalation either - the virus particles you breath out are much smaller than the fabric can stop. Most cloth masks and the exhaling masks can stop larger droplets from coughing/sneezing/spitting that are much riskier in spreading the virus.
I agree both types of masks are uselessin medical aplications however there is no data or ratings on homeade cloth masks so those cant even be considered. The vented n95 mask does have ratings. If you cough in a vented n95 those aerosolized airbourne particles go right through the vent.
@GrandpaD I specifically said it is likely they would be *approved*, I am fully aware of what was presented.
@WDWRLD I will say the amount and existence of reservations do make it more challenging for Disney; however, they can easily decide to cancel or rebook any reservation they see fit to do so in order to comply with whatever requirements they need to meet to reopen. So if that means all reservations must be rebooked in order to better fit their new capacity restrictions, they will likely have everyone who booked just rebook. And I would imagine, rebooking would be based on first-come first-served.
As for transportation to/from parks, I would assume it would work like everything else -- with physical distance between people and markings. The driver (bus), captain (boat), or pilot (monorail) cast member would likely be required to interact with guests in a way that loads them into the vehicle with plenty of space between people. As for long lines, depending on capacities and the actual number of people who are there, the lines may not really take that long. Yes the lines may appear longer, but that is just space between people. They would still be able to fit a fare number of people on the vehicles.
Also in regards to masks, there is a purpose in every mask. The end goal is to either protect yourself or protect others. Either way protection is happening. Also, the virus particles aren't aerosolized to the extent they can travel far. That is why you maintain a physical distance while also wearing a mask. Everything helps to reduce the possibility of transmission.
@WDWRLD I will say the amount and existence of reservations do make it more challenging for Disney; however, they can easily decide to cancel or rebook any reservation they see fit to do so in order to comply with whatever requirements they need to meet to reopen. So if that means all reservations must be rebooked in order to better fit their new capacity restrictions, they will likely have everyone who booked just rebook. And I would imagine, rebooking would be based on first-come first-served.
As for transportation to/from parks, I would assume it would work like everything else -- with physical distance between people and markings. The driver (bus), captain (boat), or pilot (monorail) cast member would likely be required to interact with guests in a way that loads them into the vehicle with plenty of space between people. As for long lines, depending on capacities and the actual number of people who are there, the lines may not really take that long. Yes the lines may appear longer, but that is just space between people. They would still be able to fit a fare number of people on the vehicles.
Also in regards to masks, there is a purpose in every mask. The end goal is to either protect yourself or protect others. Either way protection is happening. Also, the virus particles aren't aerosolized to the extent they can travel far. That is why you maintain a physical distance while also wearing a mask. Everything helps to reduce the possibility of transmission.
Again, if you have ever been part of a runDisney race registration you know how well their system works when its taxed. Heck just them sayig free dining can make phone wait times jump to multipul hours. I can not imagine their servers being able to handle the overload if they canceled all reservations and made everyone suddenly rebook. Also think of travel agents holding and managing reservations for numerous clients, who do they rebook first and who looses out. I in fact predict massive wait time the second a reopening date is anounced.
The vented N95 mask would stop the cough from spreading more than a few feet as the projectiles would be stopped or severely disrupted by the vent cover. This is pretty much the same with homemade masks for coughing - they disrupt the particles and keep the volume down to make it less concentrated, but the fabric density is often insufficient to stop cough droplets outright.