If +/- 10 percentage points is what you are going to call accurate then sure. I'm not willing to. It's also not going to be accurate at all given its skewed polling population.
COVID-19 & Coasters: Coronavirus Impacts on the Amusement Industry
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If +/- 10 percentage points is what you are going to call accurate then sure. I'm not willing to. It's also not going to be accurate at all given its skewed polling population.
I won't hit on this too hard since @warfelg beat me to it. That is a poll done by people who know about the park, use Facebook, are a member of a specific group, have seen the poll, and then chose to respond. The demographics for that poll are extremely specific. I should also point out, just because they may be the most vocal does not equate to an actual larger demographic.
You do realize that most people wear masks in China for long periods of time because their section of the atmosphere is so incredibly polluted? They are used to wearing masks. They have no concerns wearing masks in whatever heat or humidity for all day even. They don't just wear them in a store or on a train. In fact, I believe they take them off during their time indoors. At least, they likely used to prior to this pandemic.
Also you seemed to have skipped over the fact that you are permitted to take your masks off when sitting at a table when you are eating or drinking? Does it not compute that you can just sit down at a table, take your mask off and drink a few bottles or cups of water before taking off? Your interpretation of this policy seems to be a bit skewed.
I honestly feel children would be more likely to keep a mask on than most adults. Children will likely have fun with the mask and think it is likely a fun accessory like a costume or playing dress up. And with so many fun designs, they would likely wear them very happily. I have seen children wear full Halloween costume masks in parks before.
Also, you do realize that people have been coping with heat and humidity for ages. Quite honestly, a mask is not going to be that drastic of a difference. There are plenty of shops, restaurants, restrooms, attractions, and shows that are all indoors. When you take into account the extremely low capacity levels they will start with, there should be plenty of opportunity to step inside, not to mention all the trees with shade and the wind. Oh and can't forget the Florida thunderstorms where that wind really picks up.
There is quite a difference between a town's road versus a parks pathway. The typical width of a main park pathway is a single lane for vehicle traffic with some varying additional width. Most parks can have one lane one way vehicle traffic along their main primary pathways. It is rare that you see pathways any larger than that. Space is a premium and parks are designed to be tight. The space just isn't available. And while I would agree that pathways do offer some more space than interior spaces, enough that may allow for social distancing, I would argue that social distancing 6 feet apart is not a guarentee especially at choke points. Further, I would argue that regardless of the ability to physically distance yourself, you are still supposed to wear a mask according to health officials.
Doesn't that more indicate the number of people who wouldn't feel comfortable going even with mandatory masks? Not the number who would otherwise go but won't with mandatory masks?
For whomever keeps saying China wears masks in this or that weather circumstance all the time with no issues and the Chinese are dealing with this whilst wearing mask "all day". I don't see where China reaches the temperatures and humidity to get near what SWO or BGW would be like in the summer with a mask. Virginia easily reaches dangerous conditions throughout the summer at a 103 heat index or above. If BGW's goal is to keep the EMT department busy with patrons having heat exhaustion or heat stroke, it will be an easy goal.
So, if you haven't personally been to China to know that "everyone" does it "all the time", produce facts and not speculation.
Facts: From NOAA and climate-charts.com.
Links to China's temperatures and humidity.
China Climate and Average Annual Temperatures in China.
There are places on the interweb to calculate Heat Index. China IS NOT in Virginia's latitude to compare climates. Obvious in the above world chart from climate-charts.com. So, can we stop wasting forum space with this argument?
EDIT: To add an extreme example to "we could get use to it because they do". This equates to me like the Sherpa people of Nepal are use to climbing the Himalayan mountains. Therefore, Americans should be able to get use to it. In other words, no. A vast majority of us could not.
So, if you haven't personally been to China to know that "everyone" does it "all the time", produce facts and not speculation.
Facts: From NOAA and climate-charts.com.
Links to China's temperatures and humidity.
China Climate and Average Annual Temperatures in China.
There are places on the interweb to calculate Heat Index. China IS NOT in Virginia's latitude to compare climates. Obvious in the above world chart from climate-charts.com. So, can we stop wasting forum space with this argument?
EDIT: To add an extreme example to "we could get use to it because they do". This equates to me like the Sherpa people of Nepal are use to climbing the Himalayan mountains. Therefore, Americans should be able to get use to it. In other words, no. A vast majority of us could not.
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It is about temperature and humidity. As you can see by the data I have gathered, they are actually quite close in a similar range of heat and humidity. Virginia can have a higher humidity by as much at 10%, but otherwise, the temperatures and humidity are very similar.
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The issue to me isn't the heat and humidity....it's the implication that people will have heat related sicknesses due to wearing it. To me it's a cruddy excuse. People are responsible to hydrate themselves and regulate their temperature. Wearing a mask does not stop you from doing either of those things.
I agree that using the climate as an excuse is terrible. My response is aimed at showing that climate is not the problem. The problem, is people are using climate as a scapegoat for not wanting to comply with something they may feel is uncomfortable or scary.
You can seek air conditioning, you can seek shade, you can seek water. No one will prevent you from trying to take care of yourself properly. You as an individual need to take care of yourself by knowing how to adapt and what to do in order to prevent heat related illness.
You can seek air conditioning, you can seek shade, you can seek water. No one will prevent you from trying to take care of yourself properly. You as an individual need to take care of yourself by knowing how to adapt and what to do in order to prevent heat related illness.
Yes and there are things that you as a responsible individual can do to mitigate those risks and adapt to new health and safety standards. If you can not take of yourself by simply drinking an appropriate amount of water or seeking relief from the sun, heat, and humidity then you should probably not be out in public. Taking care of your health and safety and knowing the ways to mitigate illness is very important.
To play devils advocate, as someone who supports mandatory masks (medical exceptions, etc), they do suck to wear.
As I said before, the mask I was wearing was incredibly uncomfortable and I do not enjoy wearing it. However, I just got a new mask in the mail and trying it on, it is so much more comfortable and makes me happy to wear a mask. It is of course just a cheap temporary mask from eBay until my long-term mask finally gets in from China.
Yes, you should take care of yourself. That is up to you to do. But climate IS a factor and not an excuse. I like the quick dismissal of CDC proof. Complying could have serious consequences many might not be aware of.
I've seem numerous newbies to VA's summer heat index succumb to heat exhaustion. A mask WILL exacerbate that. To wear one, know the risks it add, knowing the signs of heat trouble, and how to care of yourself in those conditions are not quickly recognizable to many people. Though it seems common sense.
However my experience with most GP concerning simple things like baby buggy management, walking while looking at phones, reading obvious posted signs and ignoring them, and general crowd navigation puts above precautions beyond a large number of GP. I do not regard a mass majority of the GP to be responsible not how to properly care for themselves in these new conditions. Plus, the entitled do what they want with no consideration to others. Mask or no masks, comfortable or unconformable, opinions or facts, responsible or irresponsible...there will be many complications to wearing masks in that climate.
I did not deny any CDC proof. Your original post was about how the temperature and humidity was not the same as another locations, and so I showed you they are relatively the same. You next post showed infographics about how using PPE can be troublesome. I retorted with, if you take proper care and know how to stay healthy it isn't that big of an issue.
You seem to be defending the ignorance of people who don't care to know how to stay healthy and prevent heat related illness. I am not saying that heat related illness is fictional. Nor am I advocating that people blindly follow rules without knowing how to follow those rules properly. But your assumption that it is the park's fault because someone doesn't know when to drink water or step out of the sun is absurd.
If someone is planning a trip to a hot and humid place, and they know they must wear a mask, it is up to that individual to plan ahead and realize they will need to drink water, step out of the sun, plan where they can take rest stops indoors. Thats part of being a responsible adult. To say the parks should not have a rule because people won't know how to take care of themselves is ridiculous.
You seem to be defending the ignorance of people who don't care to know how to stay healthy and prevent heat related illness. I am not saying that heat related illness is fictional. Nor am I advocating that people blindly follow rules without knowing how to follow those rules properly. But your assumption that it is the park's fault because someone doesn't know when to drink water or step out of the sun is absurd.
If someone is planning a trip to a hot and humid place, and they know they must wear a mask, it is up to that individual to plan ahead and realize they will need to drink water, step out of the sun, plan where they can take rest stops indoors. Thats part of being a responsible adult. To say the parks should not have a rule because people won't know how to take care of themselves is ridiculous.
Parks may requiring masks, however no standard has been set as to the quality or efficiency of the masks. I currently have 6 different masks all made from a variety of fabrics. Varying from wool with a backing fabric to a lightweight cotton. Some are very thick and are brutal to wear when its hot. A couple are very thin and are extremely breathable.
What is stopping me from using a thin piece of gauze, or a piece of window screen with some shoe strings?
What is stopping me from using a thin piece of gauze, or a piece of window screen with some shoe strings?
I agree with basically everything you’re saying @VonDerrick, but I don’t think @BGW Family is defending anyone’s ignorance—just being a realist.
People very often leave their brains in the car when they visit parks. I would bet very good money that @BGW Family is right in that there will be a notable increase in heat-related illnesses in the parks this summer.
That said, I agree with @VonDerrick in that regardless of that fact, masks are still a needed requirement because protecting the foolish from their own idiocy can’t come at the expense of robbing the rational of their safety.
I know this was meant to be sorta hyperbolic, but to answer your question seriously, Universal is dictating that cloth face covering must meet the CDC’s recommendations. Neither gauze or a window screen would qualify. ?
People very often leave their brains in the car when they visit parks. I would bet very good money that @BGW Family is right in that there will be a notable increase in heat-related illnesses in the parks this summer.
That said, I agree with @VonDerrick in that regardless of that fact, masks are still a needed requirement because protecting the foolish from their own idiocy can’t come at the expense of robbing the rational of their safety.
I know this was meant to be sorta hyperbolic, but to answer your question seriously, Universal is dictating that cloth face covering must meet the CDC’s recommendations. Neither gauze or a window screen would qualify. ?
I guess that's essentially what I said -- I should not be outside in parks if masks are required, and neither should a lot of others in the conditions they go in. I already take precautions against sun and humidity such as only going at night and watching the weather, and it's still barely enough in the summer season. Maybe they could open more days in the fall, there will probably be people out of work and school, although that's sort of unfair those that aren't (it already is).
The question was whether you would visit BGW if they had a mandatory mask policy. About 2/3 said yes they would go with mandatory masks. The other third was across three negative choices, most of which were in the category of no they would not go. The other two choices were if there specific exemptions and I have a physical ailment.
This is my biggest fear in not just the impact on the amusement industry...just in general. There's entitled people everywhere that they right or what's comfortable to them matters more than anyone else. And it's why I am on the line of being ok it's required. Last thing I need in my life is to get sick because some asshole doesn't give a shit about me and my safety and decides that they don't need a mask, is unknowingly carrying it, and continually gets in my face somehow.
You won’t be able to seek air conditioning because interior spaces will almost certainly be strictly limited in usage if any, and shade in high humidity is of little use. It will be nearly 100% outside with a mask on all the time in humid VA summer. An hour or two of that is somewhat tolerable, but not all day, which means as long as this is policy in place anyone but locals to the park is going to be getting a bad deal.