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Celticdog said:
Today was another crowded day thanks to the stoopid $12 deal. I was hoping it wouldn't be too bad, but the lots were all full out to Ireland. The restaurants were full as well. Festhaus was at max capacity. Trappers had a line extending into the walkway. Even Dasher's Diner had a line. It was crazy busy. On the bright side, the shows were outstanding and I discovered Dickens' Tavern as a great place for food.

On the bright side, all those people buying food means more revenue for the park from Christmastown. This is good news for future Christmastown events.
 
Is it typically busy after the Dash? (I thought about doing it but my neck problems prevented me from doing any real training for it)
 
It's decently warm outside (55 degrees) but just so you know how rain can effect park attendance, it's a Saturday night and the gate guard told my husband there are about 1000 people in the park. This was at 7 p.m.
 
Isn't there a rule that they have to close the park early if they don't have a certain amount of people in the park at a certain time?
 
So am I better off going on Saturday Dec.13 instead of Friday Dec.12 as I planned? I've always avoided Christmas Town on Saturdays thinking the crowds are worse.I'm coming from a distance so I'd like to hit the best day I can.
 
Your best bet is probably a Sunday when they are not offering $12 tickets. Also consider the weather. The colder the fewer people, or that is the theory.
 
Zimmy said:
Your best bet is probably a Sunday when they are not offering $12 tickets.  Also consider the weather.  The colder the fewer people, or that is the theory.

Is there a Sunday for which $12 tickets can't be used? Aren't the Sundays closer to Xmas already crowded anyway? We wanted to go next weekend.
 
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Frankly I am not terribly certain of all the $12 dates as I have a season pass for xmas town. I believe a few posts back someone posted the $12 schedule.
 
I think the only Sunday not affected by the $12 day is the one after Christmas.

EDIT: Actually, the one before is not affected too. So the 21st and the 28th.
 
Imaginique said:
I think the only Sunday not affected by the $12 day is the one after Christmas.

EDIT: Actually, the one before is not affected too. So the 21st and the 28th.

Thanks!

Back to my original question:

Should I try next Friday when we had planned to go (a $12 ticket day) or Saturday to avoid a huge crowd?
 
I dont think anybody can answer your question with any sort of precision. In my opinion, the number of $12 tickets left floating around out there has to be diminishing at this point. Based on what I experienced last Sunday, $12 ticket days should be avoided until some kind of report from this weekend comes in.
 
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So against my best judgement, I went to the park last night. After all the bitching I have seen on here, I was mildly surprised. I think the light crowds may have helped, as my only complaint there is getting hit by multiple umbrellas. I will be bringing my own next to, to make it a fair fight.

My only real complaint was the volume of the music, everywhere. It seemed like it was cranked to 11. It made everything a bit difficult to enjoy. But places like the wildlife reserve has a great volume that just made it that much better. I don't know if the rain contributed to that or not, but if they just turned the music down a bit.... That'd be great. Grabbed a beer at the festhaus, then ate dinner at the Smoke house. No complaints there either.

All and all, I enjoyed the night.

let the hate flow.
 
I agree on the music. Even when the park is busy it is way too loud. During Miracles the hamlet music was so loud it distracted me from the actual show.

It was pretty busy tonight but nowhere near as bad as last Sunday. There were people parked across the street. We got there about 1:30 to avoid last week's fiasco. Had a great time despite the cold.
 
$12 tickets apparently are still doing their job great. I went yesterday and it was packed! I talked to a cast member who told me the park had hit 28k people and that they were staying open early. They also changed the beginning show times for Gloria and Scrooge to start earlier (which were both full to capacity, standing room only) to adjust for the crowds.

Also, I had bought a qq a couple weeks ago for this date and the people working in the park have no idea what to do with it. Over half of the locations didn't even check to see if I had one, I just told them I did and they escorted me to the front. Others had no idea what to do or even tell us where to sit for the show, it was extremely frustrating. They also moved the qq seating in das festhaus from two weeks ago from the middle tables to the sixth table off to the side behind the house. I was very upset (because why would I pay for reserved seating in a section I can't see the stage) and got a manager who sat us in the insider tour reserved seats because they didn't even have a tour that show time. I'm not sure I would get the qq in the future (it was worth it cutting verbolten, penguins and nacht tower yesterday though).
 
Matthew said:
Isn't there a rule that they have to close the park early if they don't have a certain amount of people in the park at a certain time?

Yes. If there's more employees than guests the park shuts down. No point in having a park open with everything running and nobody around to enjoy it.

I talked to a cast member who told me the park had hit 28k people
Park capacity is only 22K during CT lol. Its 28K during the regular season although it can go up to 35K+ on exceptionally busy days.

Did some research on the $12 ticket dates and updated the crowd calendar to reflect it. According to multiple sources, the tickets are NOT valid this weekend, but are valid all next week as well as Dec 22, and Dec 30. I kept the original crowd calendar intact as well so you could compare the dates.

Click here for the updated crowd calendar.

EDIT: Apparently the park added a few more days to the $12 ticket deal without advertising it. There might not be another slow day for the rest of the season. :(

See you guys at the park.
 
David said:
My only real complaint was the volume of the music, everywhere. It seemed like it was cranked to 11. It made everything a bit difficult to enjoy. But places like the wildlife reserve has a great volume that just made it that much better. I don't know if the rain contributed to that or not, but if they just turned the music down a bit.... That'd be great.

I totally agree.  This has been one of my gripes for a while now.  How many times have any of you been walking and talking with folks who are within arms distance from you, only to have to lean over close and speak directly into their ear or get frustrated and wait until you move out of a particularly loud zone?  Me too!  For myself, this has been especially frustrating on the train.  Every chance I get, I politely bring it up to the powers that be.  I had a minor victory one time back in the summer when my mom was visiting; the volume did get turned down about 25% while we rode around for a loop (it returned to "11" shortly after). ;)
 
Honestly, the only place the volume bothers me in Aquitaine. I find the entire hamlet too bright and too loud, after walking through the serenity of the Wild Reserve. It sort of mirrors my main objection to Demon Street, actually: I was assaulted by overwhelming sound and light, as I exited and dark and quiet path.

I was there Saturday and Sunday this past weekend, and I had a great time both nights. No hate from me, David. CT is beautiful and festive and fun. And I love going there with my friends.

The only complaint I have, actually, is about the Quick Queues. As bizarre as it sounds, I had to buy QQs to go to the shows. Yes, you all read that correctly. Sunday was Show Day, and we were very worried that the $12 crowds would prevent us from seeing everything. Anyway, I was completely shocked at where they placed the people who actually pay money for their seats. In Festhaus we were supposed to sit behind the large wall thingy on the stage (we moved); in San Marco, we were off to the side a few tiers up; in the Globe they had reserved the back two rows for QQ; and at the Abbeystone we should have sat behind the handicap seats. None of these locations provided good (or in some cases any) views. How can they charge people money for the worst seats in the house, when everyone else gets in free? It doesn't seem like a very good business practice to me.
 
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