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I also don't think BGW has to be ADA compliant since they're a private business.Of course, as a disabled person it would be rad for BGW to be as accessible as possible, but I don't think they're in legal bad standing ADA-wise.

A Guide to Disability Rights Laws said:
ADA Title III: Public Accommodations

Title III covers businesses and nonprofit service providers that are public accommodations, privately operated entities offering certain types of courses and examinations, privately operated transportation, and commercial facilities. Public accommodations are private entities who own, lease, lease to, or operate facilities such as restaurants, retail stores, hotels, movie theaters, private schools, convention centers, doctors' offices, homeless shelters, transportation depots, zoos, funeral homes, day care centers, and recreation facilities including sports stadiums and fitness clubs. Transportation services provided by private entities are also covered by title III.

Public accommodations must comply with basic nondiscrimination requirements that prohibit exclusion, segregation, and unequal treatment. They also must comply with specific requirements related to architectural standards for new and altered buildings; reasonable modifications to policies, practices, and procedures; effective communication with people with hearing, vision, or speech disabilities; and other access requirements. Additionally, public accommodations must remove barriers in existing buildings where it is easy to do so without much difficulty or expense, given the public accommodation's resources.

Courses and examinations related to professional, educational, or trade-related applications, licensing, certifications, or credentialing must be provided in a place and manner accessible to people with disabilities, or alternative accessible arrangements must be offered.

Commercial facilities, such as factories and warehouses, must comply with the ADA's architectural standards for new construction and alterations.

Complaints of title III violations may be filed with the Department of Justice. In certain situations, cases may be referred to a mediation program sponsored by the Department. The Department is authorized to bring a lawsuit where there is a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of title III, or where an act of discrimination raises an issue of general public importance. Title III may also be enforced through private lawsuits. It is not necessary to file a complaint with the Department of Justice (or any Federal agency), or to receive a "right-to-sue" letter, before going to court.

For more information, contact:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Disability Rights Section - NYAV
Washington, D.C. 20530
www.ada.gov

(800) 514-0301 (voice)
(800) 514-0383 (TTY)
Source:http://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm

TL;DR: Private businesses do have to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act, in new construction as well as any modificaton.

This doesn't apply to buildings built prior to July 1992. Said buildings require modifications only when easily accomplished, without much difficulty or expense.

So there are parts of BGW that are exempt, but that will change as things get renovated.
 
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Party Rocker said:
I have talked to my friend about this, and he does think it was funny. The thing is, it was meant as a joke and not to be taken as an insult, obviously not everyone can comprehend that maybe someone decided to post as joke, they all assume it is an insult or they take it as one when the person was not trying to be insulting.

What if it happened in line at a snack stand, a person asks for sugar free hot chocolate and the guy next to him says it called chili or what not. Would they have gotten so upset then? Probably not because they would be able to underst the tone and original context of what it was supposed to mean.

I didn't quite realize what you were saying when I first responded to this post. However, despite warnings from the admins and mods of this site, please allow me to properly respond to this. This has nothing to do with Clint's comments about diabetes anymore, this is about what you said. Before I get started, let me make one thing clear.

My apologies to all others, I know that nobody really wants to see this, but I put it here regardless.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA JUST HOW OFFENSIVE WHAT YOU SAID IS

Now that we have that out of the way, I would like to break down what you said. A) My friend was fine with the joke, so everybody should be. B) It wasn't meant as an insult, so you shouldn't be insulted. C) If you were there in person, you wouldn't be insulted because you clearly would have understood the tone better (Refer to part B).

I would like to remind you that I have a fairly obvious medical condition. One that I've spent many hours of physical therapy, a few surgeries, and numerous doctors all to treat it. All that time spent pales in comparison to the amount of times people have made joking comments in a wide spectrum of tones, both IRL and online, people I know and strangers, young and old, ect ect ect. The fact that you suggest it's okay because it wasn't in a obviously offensive tone suggests that any comment about the the health conditions of others is okay if it's not in an offensive tone.

I can sure as hell tell you from experience that a vast majority of these comments aren't in an offensive tone. They think it's a joke because your condition is nothing more than a joke to them. /You/ are nothing more than a joke to them because as much as people with these diseases attempt so hard to not have their life defined by them, they are still a part of your life. They are never outright mean or angry about yet they still manage to be offensive and hurtful. The fact that you don't know this fact about teasing makes me wonder what sort of magical life you have lived.

As stated above, whether you're able to not let the condition control you, the condition is ultimately part of that person's life. When you make light of the condition, you make light of the life. You simply have no idea just how low of value I have had on my life at times simply because of the low value other people held my condition. The worst part of what you said is that you sit there and tell me that a good majority of the harassment I get is justifiable.

Now, of course some people are fine with their conditions enough to the point where total strangers can make hurtful comments and not be phased, while they are not better or worse than me, I am still jealous. I will also state that these comments are a lot less hurtful if the comment isn't made about or to them directly (i.e. a joke about a disease in general as opposed to that person having that disease). I myself am fine with some of my friends making jabs about it (though, it's unusual that they do because they have that much respect) and I joke about it. I earned that right though, I deal with the physical pain and doctor visits, I'm allowed to make light of the situation. My friends have earned that right because they are flexible enough with my situation to slow down from their normal pace and to let me rest when I need it. Nobody else has earned that right though, and to suggest that something as simple as a tone fluctuation can give them that right is simply maddening.

Now, can you still tell me that this kind of behavior is okay? Can you still attempt to justify the remarks of strangers about one's medical conditions? Please do. Open my eyes. Tell me that I was wrong to be hurt or upset by these people. Tell me that I'm over-sensitive about my medical condition.
 
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There are a whole lot of pissed off people on the page now, because today was at max capcity, and they didn't plan accordingly and somehow it's all BG fault.
 
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"I will be writing letters to your corporate office. Christmastown was not worth the two hours I spent to buy tickets or the four hours we were there trying to find a show or get dinner or put my kids on a ride. As a seasonpass holder I have never seen this mess. Even in summertime and hallow scream at capacity it is never like that!!!! Someone must've missed out on numbers. You cannot close the kids areas and over half of the regular attractions and still have the same "capacity" numbers. For those of us who came early to enjoy your parks festiveness you let in way too many people. Someone needs to look into this. Some people come long ways to have to just and waste their money. And it wasn't just one or two things that were like this. Everything we tried to do was like this. Every show every eating area every ride. Those tickets I bought were to have a memorable family memory. Now it's memorable but not how we hoped. We will remember hour long lines for everything and a train ride to the front and the walk to the car which was faster than the trams."

wow.. smh.
 
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Zachary said:
I will say that a max capacity day at Christmas Town is about 10x more miserable than max capacity any other time of the year.

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Zach, I don't know about that...

We were there for one 4th of July when it was 9000 degrees, 500% humidity and 500,000 people. To say it was miserable, was an understatement.

At least during CT it's much cooler...
 
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I wonder how many of these complainers pick up a map, check times and plan accordingly. Not to mention paying attention to capacity announcements via social media. Excuses to rant like that seem silly and unfounded if all of the above is done. I was at the park today and experienced very few issues based on what I wanted to do with my daughter. Walking around blindly hoping to walk directly into shows and on rides on big crowd days like this is foolhardy. PLAN BETTER PEOPLE!!
 
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It is very difficult to do the shows and get on rides on a capacity day but it is definitely possible to do all the shows. We were at Busch today when it closed due to capacity and sat in the third row at Gloria at 3:30 then ate at Dasher's Diner and got out at 5:15. We then sat in the fourth row and watched Miracles at 6:30 and right up front middle and saw Deck the Halls at 8:25. We then strolled out toward the front and caught the Sesame Street Show at 9:30. Verbolten ride queue was full when we walked by at 7:00 but only to the second house when we passed at 8:50. Mach Tower would definitely be a problem since the line was almost full both times we went by.
 
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I agree most people come to the park expecting to just walk to something and do it instantly. I get some people try to research showtimes before hand and they have to wait to get to the park but seriously take 5 minutes to get a map and plan out your day. You can even go up to most team members and they will help tell you what to do in what order, at least most of the team members I know will help.

About corporate though, that is just ridiculous. Like corporate is going to reorganize an already extremely successful event.

These complaints are almost as bad as BGT's complaints. Anyone read those lately? Most of them related to how terrible capacity is and how the rides are shutdown and the park was underprepared for an oversold event. In response to those, it is a brand new event that park has never done before. Like they are supposed to already know how to handle everything.
 
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What bugs me is first time posters who come on the board to complain on their first or so visit. They didn't know anything about capacity, park hours, etc but magically find the fb page after they get back from their trip complain. I don't get why people can't do their research a few days ahead of time. It's not that hard. Their's a link to social media on the Busch Garden's site. If they don't know the Busch Gardens site url, they can always google it.
 
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Ok Let me make sure I have this correct
They let in too many people so you didn't enjoy yourself?
People come from a long distance for this?
So you are saying everyone STAY HOME if you're not a pass member or don't bother traveling to the park it's for locals only?
GET A GRIP it's a very popular event and there are going to be karge crowds.
 
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Can pass members take friends (without passes) on 3/16?

Is the park open for non passholders, too on the 16th?

When is pass members weekend?

hey guys we are coming on pass member's day and would like to know what specials can we expect in the park and can we bring a guest with us on pass member's day?

I know this probably seems a bit harsh but come on! Pass Holder Preview Day, not Pass Holder and a guest Preview Day, not weekend. Like seriously, do people not pay attention to the name of the day.

You sent out an email that states March 16 is the preview day, but your Facebook picture has March 17 in the background. Which date is correct or is it both? Make up your mind so I can make a decision.

I received an email stating that opening day was on the 16th, but I see that the facebook page and Busch Garden's website says it is on the 17th. I take it that opening day is on the 17th then? I can't wait to come, but I want to make sure I go on the right day.

Preview Day typically happens before Opening Day, you know to "preview" everything.

Also, we have Hersheypark season passes. Does BG offer any discount to other park pass holders like Disney does?

Can someone explain this to me?

- rant of frustration over -
 
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Party Rocker said:
Can someone explain this to me?

- rant of frustration over -

Disney HARDLY offers any discounts to their AP holders on THEIR property. Infact WDW recently changed PAP merch discount from 20% to 10%. In order to get a discount at DISNEY eateries at WDW an AP holder would need to purchase a Tables in Wonderland dining discount card. That person is very far off base. It should be ignored.
 
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Alpenghöst said:
Found this. As if any and all eagles belong to BG. Some people...

I saw that, at least it makes some sense. It's not like a bald eagle hasn't escaped before :p Better than someone asking if a squirrel belongs to BG.
 
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