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I haven't been to BGW since I was a young adult (don't ask - it was a long time ago). I remember liking Lochness Monster, but in recent years I can't say I'm a fan of most Arrow OTSR coasters. The one exception is Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. But otherwise they tend to have janky transitions, slamming my neck into the restraint. Is LNM more like Tennessee Tornado or more like Anaconda? I want to keep my expectations in check if needed, when I ride it this year. Planning a long overdue trip.
No one knows they just finished this rebuild the testing video looks buttery smooth but no one what’s got to ride yet.
 
Arrow's biggest challenge was transitions between elements, and scaling their loops. Ron Toomer designed a loop and a cork screw and they just plugged those into each coaster with little care for the track in between. Tall coaster with high speeds, put the loop in the air. High speed going into an inversion, just add some brakes to keep people from getting whiplash.

I always thought they should have tried to rework Nessie to remove the second lift and just had a MCBR before the loop to regulate speeds, but in 1978 that was the best they could do.
 
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I haven't been to BGW since I was a young adult (don't ask - it was a long time ago). I remember liking Lochness Monster, but in recent years I can't say I'm a fan of most Arrow OTSR coasters. The one exception is Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. But otherwise they tend to have janky transitions, slamming my neck into the restraint. Is LNM more like Tennessee Tornado or more like Anaconda? I want to keep my expectations in check if needed, when I ride it this year. Planning a long overdue trip.

I've had awful experiences on some Arrow loopers (Viper at Darien Lake sticks out as a particularly bad one) but Loch Ness Monster is one of my favorite rides ever and was always extremely smooth comparatively. I imagine that will only be even more true after this refurb.
 
I haven't been to BGW since I was a young adult (don't ask - it was a long time ago). I remember liking Lochness Monster, but in recent years I can't say I'm a fan of most Arrow OTSR coasters. The one exception is Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. But otherwise they tend to have janky transitions, slamming my neck into the restraint. Is LNM more like Tennessee Tornado or more like Anaconda? I want to keep my expectations in check if needed, when I ride it this year. Planning a long overdue trip.
Almost more like a Schwarzkopf, since it has loops but no corkscrews, and is considerably older than Anaconda. Has airtime and is longer but slower. Bangs head more often, less hard. Hopefully the cave/helix won't feel like something is missing anymore.
 
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Almost more like a Schwarzkopf, since it has loops but no corkscrews, and is considerably older than Anaconda. Has airtime and is longer but slower. Bangs head more often, less hard. Hopefully the cave/helix won't feel like something is missing anymore.
Loch Ness is faster than Anaconda.

I haven't been to BGW since I was a young adult (don't ask - it was a long time ago). I remember liking Lochness Monster, but in recent years I can't say I'm a fan of most Arrow OTSR coasters. The one exception is Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. But otherwise they tend to have janky transitions, slamming my neck into the restraint. Is LNM more like Tennessee Tornado or more like Anaconda? I want to keep my expectations in check if needed, when I ride it this year. Planning a long overdue trip.
Anaconda has imo always been rougher on the head than Loch Ness. Anaconda is also my second least favorite coaster I've ever ridden, right in front of Hulk at IOA.

Loch Ness is faster (60mph) than Anaconda (50mph). Plus with this refurb, I'm thinking it(LNM) may be in my top 20.
 
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Loch Ness Monster does not reach 60 mph, regardless of what the marketing copy claims.

It has been a while since I looked at Anaconda. Is the first drop trimmed? I ask because 50 mph is quite slow for a 144' drop.
It's not marketing copy it's what the manufacturer put out for both.
 
It's not marketing copy it's what the manufacturer put out for both.
Manufacturers engage in marketing activities.

It's a physical impossibility in one case and an unexplained disappearance of quite a lot of kinetic energy in the other (even after roughly accounting for losses), so it's quite reasonable to question in both cases.
 
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Manufacturers engage in marketing activities.

It's a physical impossibility in once case and an unexplained disappearance of quite a lot of kinetic energy in the other (even after roughly accounting for losses), so it's quite reasonable to question in both cases.
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Manufacturers engage in marketing activities.

It's a physical impossibility in one case and an unexplained disappearance of quite a lot of kinetic energy in the other (even after roughly accounting for losses), so it's quite reasonable to question in both cases.
Anacondas drop is also slow and curved.
 
Loch Ness is faster than Anaconda.


Anaconda has imo always been rougher on the head than Loch Ness. Anaconda is also my second least favorite coaster I've ever ridden, right in front of Hulk at IOA.

Loch Ness is faster (60mph) than Anaconda (50mph). Plus with this refurb, I'm thinking it(LNM) may be in my top 20.
Anaconda feels faster top speed but even if I might say I'm wrong and they're even, a 10 MPH advantage to Ness doesn't pass a sanity test; the snake's drop is almost 30 feet taller. However I was mostly talking about on average, even with Anaconda's slow second half, Loch Ness has more slower sections -- although Wikipedia doesn't back me up on that either. It also claims Ana hits 5.1 G's, which I presume is lateral at that one spot ;) . At least that's easy to memorize, while Nessie's roughness was more complex, hopefully that competition is game over now though.
 
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