RE: Concerts 2013
MIKEYT67 said:
Youhow2
Please give some examples of the bands\performers that you are talking about.
I also listen to a wide variety of music so i'm curious as to who you are talking about?
I'm not a huge fan of pop/pop punk/pop rock... Like Hot Chelle Rae,Cobra Starship, Victoria Justice... Notice how they booked 3 acts that fall into one genre division...
I don't actively listen to country So kellie pickler is out of the question... I mean as a guy in his 20's I don't really want to listen to songs about red high heels and being a small town girl anyways.
The only band I'd even consider seeing in that lineup is cobra starship, and It'd be more like if I was at the park and I just so happened to be there, why not... And I'd probably end up leaving after 5 minutes of having a my ears bleed from the 5 teenage girls standing behind me screaming every time one of them looked "so hot".... There is almost ZERO draw in that line up for guys above their teenage years, and half of those guys are probably only there cause of girls... And booking 3 bands that fall under the "pop" category are sure to alienate ANYONE who doesn't like pop at all... Especially that teenage/pre-teen brand pop... It's almost like a clueless early-20's female pseudo-hipster booked that lineup. I mean, the only diversity in that line-up is the country star... who is a female. And please note I'm not trying to come off as sexist, I'm just pointing out how last year's line up seems to cater to teenage/ females and pre-teens for the majority. I have no idea what kellie's crowd looks like... But honestly, can you imagine a bunch of 20 something year old guys driving down the street bumpin' "good girls go bad"? How bout 30's? Yeah...
Now, they probably did this to coincide with the opening of their new family coaster, or atleast it was pitched or presented this way to whoever the decision maker may be... But V-bolt has wide appeal. Hmm I wonder if they requested band's demo studies to see what kind of crowd they'd draw...
MIKEYT67 said:
Partyrocker You almost hit the needle on the head then you took a turn
THe 30 to 40yo couples will be the ones bringing the kids for the entire day.The younger crowd (teens) that just wants to see the concert is probably going to arrive without parents get dropped off and go to the concert.Maybe spend a couple hours at the park. More people = more money for the park
Exactly, But with last year's lineup what about the college students who have summer jobs looking to blow money at the park, and the high school guys not into pop? What about the mid-20's guys and gals and older people without kids? Might not be the biggest demo, but it's certainly one with money... And one that is prevalent in hampton roads... a military area... And certainly the ones who'd be buying the over-priced beers having a good time with their friends listening to music they like... Right? The 20's crowd are the ones who go out and rack up $200 bar tabs on payday weekends and spend $100 on beer at concerts... Not Teens, Not people with children... I just booked an all ages show, and it was like pulling teeth with the venue. They target the 20's-30's crowd cause it's what makes them money, When I book shows that's what I aim for... Kids go to shows and don't spend anything... They save most their money for band merch and like one food item they split with all their friends.
So... 80's bands. You get some of the 20's crowd. Some. Mostly the people with families though and older, and they don't have as a disposable of an income as the 20's crowd, but they expect to spend atleast 200 bucks at the park if they take their family, or they hire a babysitter, one of them drinks a little, the other drinks a bit more than a little, but they got to pay for little billy's soccer and Jenny's ballet so they budget their date night off at $100.
20's guys, Maybe military find out that a band like... Queens of the stone age or someone similar is coming to the park. They tell all their roommates, and guess what, It's on pay day weekend. They pay their 3 way rent budget out for gas a food and pay their bills and guess what, they got $500 or more left over to do w/e the heck they want with, no kids, limited responsibility... They go to the show in their tight t-shirts and get in line and see a couple of girls. They talk to them and hit on them over the hour they spend in line. About 30 minutes in they get tired of waiting in line and want to get slightly inebriated to pass the time, so they send one of their guys on a beer run. They offer the group of 5 ladies some beer. Only two of them drink beer, the others want a mixed drink. They all hand good-guy greg some cash and he takes one of the ladies with him to secure the drinks. By the time the first drink run is over the group of 3 guys and the 4 ladies just spent $62 bucks (Two $10 mixed drinks and six $6 beers) on drinks. And they are just getting started... And these ladies are hot, the guys are gonna be fairly generous and buy the ladies some more, and all of them are gonna have 3 beers and a couple of soft pretzels... Not to mention a more current band like QOTSA is gonna draw some teenagers, Also some of the older folk as well, as their music is fairly tame, very good styled classic rock'n roll. They ought to have a very well spread demo that teeters between Young and old. They will pull a lot of the mid 30's crowd with family, ranging up into the mid 40's as their first release was about 14 years ago, so the crowd that grew up with them in the college days are in their mid 30's and have started families. They are still current so they draw younger listeners as well, Plus the kids in college now, born in the late 80's and 90s grew up with them in their early teen years, Saw them at ozzfest in 2000... They are also in Rock band and guitar hero, so they have great name recognition... Also, their song content and genre does not necessarily alienate any crowd at all, other than "Maybe" for moral reasons. "Go with the flow" is certainly less polarizing age/genre wise than "Good girls go bad"...
Finally, They certainly arent the biggest band in the world, but arent the smallest. They might cost quite a bit more than what the park is paying for artist now, but they are no bon jovi or bruno mars, but the Demo they would attract would certainly be better revenue-wise than oh say... Hot Chelle Rae. But, booking such bands who are planning tours and recording... It's tricky to get them at the right price, and usually they absolutely will not play a free show during their tour... Unless you are gonna make up the cost.
All this is just speculation and examples, but please remember I do have some experience in booking bands, shows and promoting artist. I can't publicly comment on who I've promoted cause they weren't *my* shows... But I certainly do have some experience in the matter.
